Women have a huge privilege compared to trans women

[IDanielRadcliffe]

www.telegraph.co.uk/health-fitness/body/transgender-diary-women-have-huge-privilege-compared-transwomen/

I think DT manages to be both racist and sexist this week.

I got harassed 3 times just on friday because I dared to wear shorts (although also got harassed when in scrubs the day before so not sure I can blame the shorts)

Feel free to take my privelage.

On the day that this person first experiences the harassment that they so fear, will they shout "transphobia!" or will they shout "misogyny!"?

When they get patronised or talked over by other males will they shout "transphobia!" or will they shout "misogyny!"?

When men appropriate their suggestions or projects will they shout "transphobia!" or will they shout "misogyny!"?

Will they need specific words to be used so that they can understand why they are being targeted?

Or will they feel warmly affirmed as a woman by being assaulted, patronised, talked over and appropriated in the manner most women experience as part of female privilege?

Women are even harrassed for saying they are women due to being adult human females.

What a load of guff. I am just wondering if this particular transwoman wants to be harassed. They go on about it enough. Perhaps it’s a disappointment they haven’t been.

What an absolute cock. And completely tone deaf to what women face every frigging day.

My 16yo dd went out in town with a friend the other day, both in shorts and tees, nothing revealing, and they were honked at/catcalled 12 times.

Disgusting.

His page is the ONLY BIT OF THE MAGAZINE I WONT READ. Makes my blood boil

I wonder how this goes down with Telegraph readers in general?

My mum is a Telegraph reader. She passes the magazine onto me every week with the words "don't read that column it will annoy you". My mum is wise.

And there we have it. This person is actually a woman. Not a transwoman. A woman.

I on the other hand am a subsidiary of woman. A cis woman.

He can just absolutely fuck off. This person is not a woman, has never been a woman, will never be a woman.

I like the coats D Thomas wears in the photos, but I don't look at the pics and see a woman - I see the man in previous columns.

"Transwomen face sky-high rates of harassment, abuse and violence. It hasn’t happened to me yet. But it only has to happen once, the possibility is always there, and part of my mind is permanently engaged in the job of trying to avoid it by appearing normal, feminine and unthreatening."

This is basically saying that if women don't present the 'correct' appearance, they are responsible for bringing harassment upon themselves.

Thomas is desperate to be harassed. Trust me - that's what autogynephilia is about.

That column is so offensive on both sex and race.

I, like every woman I know had been sexually harassed before I was 10.

They are oblivious that the other thing that comes with a university education for many women is rape, or if they are lucky, just sexual assault.

Transwomen face sky-high rates of harassment, abuse and violence. It hasn’t happened to me yet. But it only has to happen once, the possibility is always there, and part of my mind is permanently engaged in the job of trying to avoid it by appearing normal, feminine and unthreatening.

And women don't?

The last person I was sexually harassed by was a friend of my dad's. I'd taken his mobile number to arrange a meet up (dad din't have his phone on him). I arranged it very transactionally, no emotion, no "x" at the end or "looking forward to". Did it stop him sending me lewd messages?

Will this narcissistic prick ever get that? No. I fucking wonder why.

I will not take part in other people's fetishes. No fucking way.

This makes me angry... can you tell?

I stopped reading DT’s column ages ago as he’s clearly AGP and his (and others) proclamation that transwomen are women is the ultimate male privilege.

It makes me so cross so many liberals can’t see this.

Also, as a biological woman, why am I now a cis woman? Why is a transman a woman? Why can’t transwomen (and transmen) be unique and have their own ‘category’? Because they are unique, and they should celebrate and embrace this.

I hardly dare click the link; just the title of the thread's got me annoyed.

Women (XX becunted variety) who are unable to put on a socially-approved performance of femininity are at a disadvantage compared to women (XX becunted variety) who are able to navigate the murky waters of this mechanism of oppression without any visible psychological fallout.

Transwomen, who are not XX becunted type people, are pretty irrelevant to that.

It's obvious that XY people who want to indulge in expression coded (by other XY people) as "feminine", "girly" or "sissy" get a raw deal. But, again, nothing to do with women.

part of my mind is permanently engaged in the job of trying to avoid it by appearing normal, feminine and unthreatening

The staggering ignorance of the reality of being female is mindblowing. Dressing in girl clothes will not save you. Painting your face will not save you. Contorting yourself to be pleasing to the male gaze will not save you. No amount of "gender expression" can save you from the physiological fact of your vagina being a weakpoint through which males may violate and dominate you with their penises.

JiggeryWokery's right. It's victim-blaming bullshit; saying women are safe from harassment and assault if they meet patriarchal beauty standards is saying it's our own fault when we get raped for not being pretty and submissive enough.

Yes, corrective rape of non-conforming women is a thing. That doesn't mean women who conform are safe.

one worst & everyday issues about being a woman? finding yourself in what should be a straightforward official/professional/as a parent. carer or a patient etc situation where you know from the language used that you are being patronised, your views or needs are discounted, & you go away grinding your teeth.
How many women have had to continual go back to their dr, for instance, repeating that there is something not right (gyny/urological) before you get treatment
Teaching your daughters about safety when going out (routes being on public transport etc)
Facing comments about how you look, what you are wearing & attitudes about whether wearing something is putting yourself at risk (even when its not!)
& as for ageism with sexism etc don't even get started
Have biology which affected by the process ie periods, fertility in all aspects, menopause, childbirth & its long term & short term side effects ….
Goodness I can understand I must have a huge privilege
& I would never compare my lived in female experience with other women who have to face difficulties I don't - be it disability, ethnicity or race etc

Women are privileged with a priveledge that they can be seen clearly to be a women. A priviledge that many women would gladly give away to a transwomen if they could , hec I would even pay if they could take that away

Is it really a privilege if it holds you back and disadvantages you ?

a great surgeon and fancy hair

Suggests a glorious sight that’s not what anyone, apart from DT, actually sees.

DT is jus5 a rude thoughtless person

No thoughts to how women might feel about the approbation of our sex

Rude person

It’s just a thinly disguised ‘fuck you jo rowling’ isn’t it? Mealy mouthed whining about ‘famous people’ etc. He’s fucking desperate to be harassed, like Paris ‘ex-con’ Lees. He’s actually legit jealous that JKR got attention and he didn’t. How desperately narcissistic do you have to be to write an entire article based on not having been a victim? He’s full on jumping up and down going ‘pick me!’ ‘Do it more!’ ‘Harder!’
AGP narcissism at full pelt.
Ew.
That’s grim.

It hasn’t happened to me yet. But it only has to happen once, the possibility is always there, and part of my mind is permanently engaged in the job of trying to avoid it by appearing normal, feminine and unthreatening.

It hasn't even happened to him yet?? Lucky lucky bastard, what is he actually complaining about??

sorry, they, (s)he, whatever. Too surprised at the lack of self-awareness to go and research the particular preferred title of this particular over-privileged twit.

So the middle class white male trans person is claiming that, say, a working class woman has privilege over the MC white male trans person because one day, someone could harass the MC white male trans person, and that's not reality for women?

MC white male trans person is a sexist arse. And if MC white male trans person isn't eager to be objectified while walking past a building site I'll eat my baseball cap.