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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Daily Mail support for JKR

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Newwayofthinking · 28/06/2020 12:02

Andrew Doyle has written this article in support of JKR, unless I ha e read it completely wrong.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8466711/ANDREW-DOYLE-JK-Rowling-row-shows-Britain-grip-frightening-new-kind-religion.html

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MujeresLibres · 28/06/2020 12:04

He has. If you'd told me 10 years ago that the Mail would have more of a grip on the issues facing women than the Guardian, I'd have laughed in your face.

larrygrylls · 28/06/2020 12:06

The ‘woke’ are eating their own tail.

Newwayofthinking · 28/06/2020 12:08

And the comments are very supportive as well.

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Xanthangum · 28/06/2020 12:11

Some pearls of wisdom here, like:
"The extent of the rage against Rowling can be partly explained by the fact that the ‘social justice’ bullies have grown accustomed to getting their own way. They cannot comprehend the idea that one of their victims might refuse to apologise or to kowtow to their superior authority, or retreat entirely from public life."

And

"For some social justice activists, ‘silence is violence’. The answer to social injustice is not merely preventing certain forms of speech, but compelling people to speak up and say what they may not actually believe, which is only ever likely to generate resentment."

Langbannedforsafeguardingkids · 28/06/2020 12:17

Interesting that Blaire White has come out in support. How does Daniel Radcliffe square that circle? Is he just repeating 2+2=5 furiously?

highame · 28/06/2020 12:18

Just read the article, very good, I thought. Worth a read but definitely shocked that it's The Mail

Newwayofthinking · 28/06/2020 12:34

I don't know much about the whole thing, but I'm learning rapidly.

Is Blair's White someone supportive of women rights or believes TWAW?

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Lamahaha · 28/06/2020 12:37

I've just read on another MN thread that ANdrew Doyle is actually the creator of Titiana McGrath AND Jonathon Pie.

Lamahaha · 28/06/2020 12:38

Blair White is a transwoman who not only passes well, but believes that TWAM. I'm not sure what pronouns he/she uses.

LethargicLumpOfLockdownLard · 28/06/2020 12:40

Saw that this morning and wondered if there was a thread here about it.
Dithering over whether my Facebook can cope with a DM article...
Well written and excellent points, but will anyone read it if I share it?

DrDetriment · 28/06/2020 12:44

The Mail is good at supporting women's rights and being very reasonable regarding the transgender debate. Unfortunately though many of the feminist forums I go on ban DM links due to the perception of the paper, which in my mind is equally bigoted.

Carriemac · 28/06/2020 12:50

Excellent thoughtful article

Newwayofthinking · 28/06/2020 12:50

@Lamahaha thank you...worth a follow on Twitter?

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Newwayofthinking · 28/06/2020 12:52

@LethargicLumpOfLockdownLard

I no longer have FB and I would be too scared to show my support as I would fear for my job. Too many woke about.

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MsMarvellous · 28/06/2020 12:54

I posted the Jonathan Pie "Woke" vidéo on my FB and it's the first video of his that no one has liked.

TorkTorkBam · 28/06/2020 12:56

Many publishing houses have ‘sensitivity readers’ to scour books for any signs of material that might be considered offensive to minority groups. In doing so, they are implicitly endorsing the patronising notion that minorities are in need of their protection. No amount of homophobia in a novel is likely to offend me more than the prospect of woke publishers deciding what gay people such as myself should and shouldn’t read.

This describes exactly how I feel. Very strongly.

DidoLamenting · 28/06/2020 13:04

Is Blair's White someone supportive of women rights or believes TWAW?

Blaire White is a right- wing trans woman who believes she is a trans woman not a woman and has often said that she is biologically male. (I'm happy to use female pronouns for Blaire although even if one didn't she wouldn't have a screaming hissy fit)

Blaire White has frequently been called transphobic for her views.

Lamahaha · 28/06/2020 13:08

[quote Newwayofthinking]@Lamahaha thank you...worth a follow on Twitter?[/quote]
I don't know, as I'm not a Twitter user. Perhaps others can answer. I think she does mostly Youtube videos and that's her means of income. I don't subscribe to her on Youtube, but I do watch the occasional one.

FiveGensOfLove · 28/06/2020 13:11

It’s not in the DM - it’s the Mail on Sunday, which has always been a very different paper and far more liberal in outlook

DidoLamenting · 28/06/2020 13:14

Interesting that Blaire White has come out in support. How does Daniel Radcliffe square that circle? Is he just repeating 2+2=5 furiously?

Radcliffe would just dismiss her. Blaire is the wrong sort of trans woman. She's a right-wing libertarian, big supporter of free speech- can't stand lefty Hollywood luvvies.

TorkTorkBam · 28/06/2020 13:21

Blaire White is the wrong kind of transwoman. Passes well in photos and youtube. Openly says she knows she is male. Still has male genitalia and will talk about it, a bit. Does not agree that TW are actual women and thus get access to everything that is exclusive to women. Loathed by TRAs for wrong think.

Newwayofthinking · 28/06/2020 13:23

How can you be the wrong sort of transwoman? Ahhh not the aggressive, bulling, "I want your spaces" kind. Just a nice "this is me, carry on as you were" kind.

I can see why he wouldn't support someone like Blair's White 🤷‍♀️

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TheRealMcKenna · 28/06/2020 13:29

This is Andrew Doyle’s finest work...

www.independent.co.uk/voices/comedy-stand-up-sexism-racism-metoo-free-speech-ricky-gervais-dave-chappelle-a8796341.html

Take the 4th letter from every sentence...

BoreOfWhabylon · 28/06/2020 13:34

The Mail also has a piece today on the proliferation of MAPs on social media and their links to PIE.

Chicchicchicchiclana · 28/06/2020 13:42

I wish I could read that but I had to click away because a third of the screen is taken up with flashing, fast-moving back ground video of fekking Love Island! How can I make that stop?

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