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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

"Men menstruate. Some have even given birth. Women with penises and prominent larynxes walk the streets and use the ladies’ restroom." - NYT

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ShootsFruitAndLeaves · 23/06/2020 16:04

I thought this was a joke

www.nytimes.com/2020/06/23/opinion/trans-gender-language-trump.html

It turns out not to be.

It's by
' Devin Michelle Bunten'

No prizes for guessing what 'Michelle' used to be.

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BovaryX · 24/06/2020 13:20

@NonnyMouse1337

Yes, it's extremely concerning, BovaryX. Very little plurality of thought in academic institutions. These sort of crackpot ideas could have been safely ignored while they were contained in the ivory towers of academic navel gazing. But such ideologies are now being disseminated widely across all sorts of areas as they are viewed as trendy by those who will rarely be confronted with the ramifications of such nonsense. Easy to pontificate about 'well what is a woman, really.....' when you aren't a female prisoner or woman suffering from trauma and you find a man identifying as a woman in your cell block or your rape crisis centre.
I agree Nonny. These loopy ideas, which have been decanted from academia without challenge, are going to do serious damage. What is becoming more explicit by the day is that the foundational principles of liberal democracies are being attacked. The Robespierre faction don't believe in them. They are convinced they occupy the moral highground and can issue dictates from its peak that require unquestioning compliance. What did Voltaire say about doubt? Another lesson from history ignored.
NearlyGranny · 24/06/2020 14:01

Well, the writer was going some to get JKR and Trump into the same box! Politics makes strange bedfellows and all, but she's not a politician! Guilt by (extremely loose) association?

Perhaps we need a parlour game where the challenge is to pull out any two well-known names and forge a tenuous link between them. Perhaps there is one already and Devin has been playing it?

merrymouse · 24/06/2020 14:04

Well, the writer was going some to get JKR and Trump into the same box!

It's the same old story. "Just look what you made that man do!!!".

Dicotyledon · 25/06/2020 01:02

Just started (carefully) re-reading 1984. Struck by Winston’s friend telling him that everyone will have to learn the new amended language as soon as the dictionary is completed. Its what we are being asked to do now. Amazing how many of us are saying No.

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