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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Would you vote Conservative at the next election?

342 replies

cheeseismydownfall · 23/06/2020 07:21

Obviously this question isn't really relevant if you vote Conservative anyway!

Over my 25-odd year voting history I have voted Lib Dem, Labour and Green. I consider myself left wing and would never have considered a Tory vote. But if the principle parties maintain their current positions on women's rights then for the first time ever I will consider a Conservative vote at the next election - not simply because this one issue trumps everything else (although I personally feel very strongly about it, education, health and the environment are still hugely important to me) but because I simply don't trust the critical thinking skills of any party who have allowed themselves to be so thoroughly hijacked by the trans rights agenda and attempt to silence dissenting voices.

Anyone else feel this way?

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DrudgeJedd · 23/06/2020 09:01

Update on the Labour sex pests, I've just seen that one of them has been booted as a rep for their uni Labour soc, more of this please Kier twitter.com/qmlgbtsoc/status/1274821153702514689?s=19

DuDuDuLangaLangaBingBong · 23/06/2020 09:03

Hopefully by the time the next GE rolls around GRA amendment will be over and done with and we’ll all be able to vote for candidates based on a number of issues, not just this one.

I did spoil a vote in the locals recently, but I knew the candidate was safe so it wasn’t a particularly bold action. I wrote ‘Women’s Rights are for Female People’.

Took bloody ages compared to a cross. Scritch, scritch, scritch, scritch, scritch. Pencils can be very loud in a silent room!

babbaloushka · 23/06/2020 09:06

"just pat her on the bottom and send her on her way."- Boris Johnson

AsTreesWalking · 23/06/2020 09:07

No. But I wouldn't vote for the others either...

babbaloushka · 23/06/2020 09:07

The reviews relied on words such as 'filly', 'chicks' and 'flapping kimonos' and were garnished with plenty of 'gearstick' gags ... There is talk of blonde drivers 'waggling their rumps,' his own superior horsepower 'taking them from behind,' aided by tantalising thoughts of the imaginary 'ample bosoms' of the female Sat Nav voice.- a summary of Johnson's reviews of "babe magnet" cars.

AsTreesWalking · 23/06/2020 09:08

I will go the the poll, of course, but I'm afraid it's a spoiled vote for me Sad

babbaloushka · 23/06/2020 09:08

Johnson also brought his admiration for "hot totty" into the office, pinning a Pirelli calendar to his desk, which featured nude photography, despite complaints from female colleagues.

babbaloushka · 23/06/2020 09:08

"The real reason why Blackpool is buzzing with glamorous women is surely that they scent victory. It is not the great smell of Brut that makes John Prescott attractive. It is the whiff of power. With the fickleness of their sex, they are following the polls."- Boris Johnson

whatswithtodaytoday · 23/06/2020 09:09

Absolutely not in a million years.

babbaloushka · 23/06/2020 09:10

"women will be more promiscuous if Mr Blair comes to power."- Boris Johnson.

He's a disgusting, entitled misogynist, who demonstrably treats the women in his own life (RE lying and cheating) with the contempt and sexual deservedness that his attitude dictates.

IntermittentParps · 23/06/2020 09:11

No. It's throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

WeeMadArthur · 23/06/2020 09:13

I have no idea who to vote for, really feel that women have been thrown under a bus. I know not voting isn’t an option but I just don’t know who I can vote for any more.

WhatWouldYouDoWhatWouldJesusDo · 23/06/2020 09:15

God no. How anyone can look at Johnson and think 'yep, you get my vote'. Is beyond me.

And tbh there's more to running the country than ' the trans issue'.

I have bigger fish to fry such as the cuts to funding towards domestic violence charities and the fact that under this government thousands of women have remained in violent relationships because the benefit system and lack of state support has made it too difficult for them to leave.

HashtagLurky · 23/06/2020 09:16

The only certainties in this world are death, taxes and me never voting Tory.

moonsnake · 23/06/2020 09:20

No.

I'm brown and a single mother. I do not have the luxury of voting based on a single issue.

I don't understand how you can call yourself a feminist and vote conservative.

11stoneTess · 23/06/2020 09:20

Labour voter all my life (increasingly with a heavy heart and grave missgivings), but now consider myself a floating voter and will consider all parties at the next election - including the Tories.

I find myself becoming increasingly anti-woke and dont really know where that leaves me.

IdblowJonSnow · 23/06/2020 09:22

"If they sort out this mess"

They caused this mess surely. It's estimated by scientists that if we'd locked down just one week earlier we'd have had over half the deaths that we've had.
I am pleased about the furlough scheme and the other types of propping up they've provided but it's not enough to make me vote for them.
Besides now we have Keir Starmer, Labour are now a much more convincing party again.

CaraDune · 23/06/2020 09:25

I'm tempted by the spoilt ballot paper option, but always very aware of the fact that the US equivalent (voting for fringe no-hopers because Hillary wasn't "pure" enough) is what let Trump in. So I personally feel like I have a moral obligation to vote for the "least worst" even when all the options are a complete shit-fest.

Boris and pals clearly couldn't govern a primary school fete, much less a country facing the worst pandemic in a hundred years. Part of the problem is that in an effort to (a) avoid anyone vaguely competent who might throw his incompetence into stark relief and (b) a need to surround himself with yes men and women, Boris has appointed a cabinet of raving incompetents. Would a better PM with a better cabinet have made a better fist of this? Probably. It would be hard to do worse.

But it also depends on what Keir Starmer can do. Can he get rid of the far left? Can he move Labour away from virtue-signalling purity spirals and onto actually doing concrete good for traditionally left-wing issues? Can he deal with antisemitism and misogyny within the Labour party?

The Lib Dems continue to be a joke. Looks like Layla "I can see into souls" Moran will be leader/ co-leader, and she's about the one person I can think of who can make Jo Swinson look like an intellectual heavyweight.

The Greens think I'm a "non-man" so they can do one.

Immigrantsong · 23/06/2020 09:30

As an immigrant in the UK, even after 21 years here I am not allowed to vote. Even so, I would never ever vote for Tories. How can anyone forget Grenfell, Brexshit, no PPE, wanting to cancel free school meals, a Prine Minister that referred to Muslim women as letterboxes, black people as pikaninies, gay people as bumboys and working men as feckless.

Mascotte · 23/06/2020 09:31

No. They are untrustworthy and self seeking. Because of this and the woke stuff I couldn't vote for anyone.

GameSetMatch · 23/06/2020 09:33

No Never! I’d never put myself before others, people are living in poverty the Tories don’t care!

KizzyWayfarer · 23/06/2020 09:33

No no no.
Have people forgotten (or never cared anyway) about austerity? The welfare safety net dismantled so that people needed to rely on food banks, many more sleeping on the streets, local authority budgets slashed, the impacts on disabled people...
And they want to take us into the horror show of a hard / no deal Brexit - best summed up as the only time in history that a country declared punitive sanctions on itself. Makes a total mockery of the idea that Conservatives are supposed to care about the economy and prosperity.
On Covid - I think Labour would have been less reluctant to impose lockdown than the Tories whose ideology is all about individual freedom. But that’s a guess, whereas the damage caused by austerity in the past and predicted damage of Brexit is backed up by vast quantities of reports and statistics (including those pointing out that the impacts have fallen hardest on women).
Boris ‘lies about everything and generally incompetent’ Johnson is just the icing on the cake.

SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 23/06/2020 09:36

No Never! I’d never put myself before others

See, I always used to think this. I would vote for the party I thought would do the best for the most people. But I've now realised that women never, ever get to put their needs and wants first. Even asserting our legal rights as women is now deemed as hateful because we should be putting others (men) first. So now, I think FUCK THAT, and if there's one place that I absolutely will put myself and my needs first it's at the ballot box.

KenDodd · 23/06/2020 09:38

I feel they have handled covid as best they could

I do as well.
The problem is that we but a bunch of incompetent, liars who care about nobody and nothing except themselves in charge. We knew what they were like went we voted (especially BJ and add in lazy) it was plain to see. They could never have handled covid well because it's beyond there capability.

Apollo440 · 23/06/2020 09:39

You need to work harder on your right wing bigotry that the TRAs accuse us of because it really isn't coming across.