Queeriods. "How to talk inclusively about periods."

[Lamahaha]

I saw this on a Twitter thread of Glinner, in which he said I'd better be careful. I'm extremely drunk and might tweet something like "Women menstruate".

I followed a few of the tweets and found this website :

periodpositive.wordpress.com/

This is where apparently media & menstrual product companies now working from and get the language. All about "inclusive" language. The words "woman", "feminine", "female" are taboo.

Grovelling apologies offered; I would have thought this was satire had I seen it anywhere else:
rubycup.com/blogs/news/we-need-to-apologize

embarrassingly trendy faux-insta- feminism bothers me, that’s exactly the point.

Beware the insta-plopper, who has not done its research, and which has no idea of the background to any of the discussions.

Oh you naughty little wimmins, you don't know how to wimmin right.

Menstruation management

U2 most people who menstruate were assigned female at birth and identify as female, and some menstruators identify as non-binary or as trans men

What the fuck is this? I have yet to meet somebody who was not recorded as female at birth who menstruates. I don't want this rubbish taught in schools (it's from the section of their webpage for schools).

Being #periodpositive is about inclusion and visibility for everyone who menstruates

and this..it's all bollocks. Why not just say for women? That covers it, whether they are women who are yet menstruate, no longer menstruate or women who never have for whatever reason.

Floisme Chella did her MSc into the history and politics of menstruation there.
Thanks vivarium. I assume the MSc didn't cover the biology of menstruation!

Head... desk... thunk.

I wasn't assigned female at birth, the midwife took a look, saw my vulva, said "congratulations, she is a girl."

That's how it goes for 99.9% of the population, barring a tiny, tiny minority of people with DSDs who may have ambiguous genitalia.

Some people may grow up deeply unhappy at being the sex they were born into, and that's very sad. Some of those people may feel it is more comfortable for them to live according to the arbitrary sex-stereotypes their culture associates with the opposite sex, and that is fine - more power to their elbow if it makes them happier, more fulfilled and more productive.

But nobody gets "assigned" a sex at birth. The midwives don't pop a fucking sorting hat on the baby's head which goes "Mmm, possible interest in trains in your future, but also interest in fashion and home baking... no, wait a minute, pink sparkles... this one gets sorted into Slytherin womanhood."

So what about trans-men?

As this is all supposedly about being scrupulously fair, considerate and non-biased yo the extent of denying our own physical identity, then we shouldn't presume that a 'man' has a penis?

So 'man' becomes 'person with a penis', etc.

For once I'm not being facetious, either.

I just see over-dressed areseholes with connections to the bbc elite or the Freud family prancing around in expensive dungarees on Instagram saying ‘fight for women’ and billions climb on.

I think this is one of the oddest paragraphs I've ever seen on FWR.

That sounds a bit more like extinction rebellion than feminism

So what about trans-men?

Honestly I wish transmen would just realised they are being played. Adapting things for transmen is nothing but a bone being thrown at us , to give the impression that its transmen and either for biological women being behind this.

When in fact no one gives a shit about women no matter how they identify and this is all to appease males.

The whole 'person with uterus' and 'person with penis' is problematic though isn't it? A friend's DF had his penis removed due to cancer, many people with a uterus become people without a uterus.

Can we come up with another term which is less fixated on bodily organs. I'm sticking my neck out here but can I propose 'woman' and 'man' as suitable, if controversial, terms?

Think about the two approaches here:

• I identify as ( ) and feel excluded by labels that don't mention my particular specific needs, so would like you to add my chosen phrase (and those of everyone else's) to 'women' on labels so I feel more part of society.

• I identify as ( ) and feel excluded by labels that don't mention my particular specific needs, so would like you to remove all reference to female people, and enforce a complete rewording of reality on everyone for my own benefit to imply that menstruation has nothing to do with being female for anyone at all, regardless of how erased or discarded this makes some female people feel.

From a purely marketing point of view, which one is going to get support and which is just totally going to piss off the main customers?

I can't decide what I want to watch this afternoon.
Perhaps, Person in Black or What Persons Who Menstruate Want....
Where will it end?

@mellowww

So what about trans-men?

As this is all supposedly about being scrupulously fair, considerate and non-biased yo the extent of denying our own physical identity, then we shouldn't presume that a 'man' has a penis?

So 'man' becomes 'person with a penis', etc.

For once I'm not being facetious, either.

This is my problem. Men’s stuff has man written over it. Men’s health campaigns will talk about men needing prostate checks. None of this penis havers and prostate owners for men.

Queeriods?? I cant even begin to find the words to frame a suitable response!!

Start with 'nonsense' and work from there?

Maybe Men in Black should be called 'Penis in Black'

I read it as Queer-oids, maybe to go with your post-pregnancy haemorrhoids and your uterine fibroids?

And men can be androids

I'm not sure I even understand some of this!

@EmmaJR1

I'm not sure I even understand some of this!

Is she referring to us cervix havers 🤔. So the euphemism is that we were all gestated in a womb, I assume the womb was inside a female but to be fair, I’m not sure.

I think it must be a reference to everyone having been gestated in a uterus, but it's not clear.

As a post-menopausal former menstruation and cervix haver, a parent and grandparent (must change my name!) I'm not quite sure how I'd be labelled by the super-woke allies.

Probably an irrelevant, ugly old TERF for still expecting to just be a woman without caveats. 🤷🏼‍♀️

How come men get left alone to just be men without being scolded? Am I missing that aspect?

And it’s so right on, women’s issues, women’s safety, women’s health, yet none of you Seem to care about this come a general Election.

Clearly not talking about us - it was a subject for weeks - agonising over the problem that there wasn't anyone to vote for who'd uphold our rights (except possibly the conservatives, which seemed a step too far for most), plenty of us spoiled our ballots as a result, some held their nose and voted for the least-worst, but we all discussed it, and acted according to this issue.

How come men get left alone to just be men without being scolded? Am I missing that aspect?

You've spotted it. This is a men's rights movement with a nice coat on.

To what extent this was originally an ethical movement that was taken over by those who saw it as a useful trojan horse by which to attack women and remove their rights, or to what extent this was always the core belief and purpose from the start for those with the power - you'd need to talk to one of the serious historians here who know the evidence well.

Musicforsmorks It is continuously trending to be seen as on the button with women’s issues, but not to give two fucks about poverty, slave labour, trafficking, bedroom tax, animal welfare, fascism (unless it impacts women), young people’s future, climate change, etc

A fine example of what-about-ism, thank you.

I have noticed that the trend now is to be seen as an ally to people who do not give two fucks about women's issues. I must have been living under a rock or something.