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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Queeriods. "How to talk inclusively about periods."

157 replies

Lamahaha · 21/06/2020 08:58

I saw this on a Twitter thread of Glinner, in which he said I'd better be careful. I'm extremely drunk and might tweet something like "Women menstruate".

I followed a few of the tweets and found this website :

periodpositive.wordpress.com/

This is where apparently media & menstrual product companies now working from and get the language. All about "inclusive" language. The words "woman", "feminine", "female" are taboo.

Grovelling apologies offered; I would have thought this was satire had I seen it anywhere else:
rubycup.com/blogs/news/we-need-to-apologize

Queeriods. "How to talk inclusively about periods."
OP posts:
SarahTancredi · 21/06/2020 11:05

Being UNable

Stupid phone

Cabin · 21/06/2020 11:12

Bland male corporate-style drivel. "Menstruation management"? Hmm

Floisme · 21/06/2020 11:19

I see there's a (very fuzzy) logo for Sheffield Hallam University on that unfortunately named flowchart. Does any one know what the connection is? I've googled Period Positive and can't find anything.

AnotherLass · 21/06/2020 11:32

I actually know Chella Quint. It makes sense of this more if you know that she is an American (lives in UK now though). She honestly seemed VERY American to me, if you know what I mean. She's behind a lot of the period stuff

justanotherneighinparadise · 21/06/2020 11:33

Well it’s as clear as day isn’t it. There’s literally a new word for women.

justanotherneighinparadise · 21/06/2020 11:50

I’ve just wasted eleven minutes of my life reading that tosh.

You know, the amount of effort that so many people are putting into these changes, the linguistic gymnastics and thought policing, I just wish they could have devoted themselves to something really life enhancing.

We know that global warming is going to finish us all off in time, regardless of our pronouns. I can’t help but think that if they’d chosen that as a campaign they could have turned the whole thing around. I’m staggered at the professionals and organisations that have dedicated themselves to this. It baffles me.

It’s like 99 people huddled around a chip pan fire with dampened tea towels when there’s a fucking inferno behind the door to the room. I’ll never understand it.

JellySlice · 21/06/2020 12:02

I have no problems with 'menstrual products', but the rest is utter bilge. And potentially harmful, too. Reproductive care is completely different for females/women/girls and males/men/boys.

UnWilly · 21/06/2020 12:07

I think menstrual products is okay (feminine hygiene products always seems a bit euphemistically coy to me)

But for pretty much all of the rest!!!!

SarahTancredi · 21/06/2020 12:12

Thing is surely in supermarkets the feminine hygiene aisle containes things like panty liners and intimate washes /wipes ( the implication of need for which is a other thread entirely )and incontinence pads etc which arent actually specifically for menstruation. So feminine hygiene covers all that when menstruation products wouldnt. So the phrase may work in say schools and biology classes when you are talking about periods/womens reproductive systems, but it wouldnt work in a supermarket

UnWilly · 21/06/2020 12:16

Fair point!

justanotherneighinparadise · 21/06/2020 12:17

Are any of the groups campaigning that Tena Lady change their packaging to ‘persons who leak urine’ or are we okay to keep that particular issue as no one else feels like cherry picking it?

SarahTancredi · 21/06/2020 12:20

Well there is a tena man so it might be able to remain...but who knows.

Besides it's not like men are routinely stopped by security in Tesco and refused sale of tampons is it. Any more than I would be stopped from buying a mens razor.

Mind you they did come for man size tissues. .

Michelleoftheresistance · 21/06/2020 12:36

Thing is, they will soon realise that the people who actually need and buy the products will roll their eyes and walk away. Because being lectured about erase yourself better very quickly gets unbelievably tedious when it's rammed down your throat on a daily basis.

Pissed off people don't spend money.

Michelleoftheresistance · 21/06/2020 12:37

Incidentally I still owe a major vote of thanks to Always for getting me into reusable san wear Smile

Cheers guys. That's a good few quid a month I'm saving because of you.

Musicforsmorks · 21/06/2020 12:50

It’s interesting how some topics become a buzz on here. Guaranteed to get a high post response, always.

Honestly, whilst I can sympathise and agree with many issues in these areas I am alarmed by how many people are so unhealthily obsessed with what other people do with or identify with about their bodies.

And it’s so right on, women’s issues, women’s safety, women’s health, yet none of you Seem to care about this come a general Election.

It is continuously trending to be seen as on the button with women’s issues, but not to give two fucks about poverty, slave labour, trafficking, bedroom tax, animal welfare, fascism (unless it impacts women), young people’s future, climate change, etc.

I just see over-dressed areseholes with connections to the bbc elite or the Freud family prancing around in expensive dungarees on Instagram saying ‘fight for women’ and billions climb on.

It’s so fucking fake and embarrassing.

Sorry if that brings out my inner Holden caulfield but Christ I’m done with the hypocrisy .

JellySlice · 21/06/2020 12:50

You'll find also find products for men on the 'Feminine Hygiene' aisle - incontinence pads, for example. And you find products used by people of all ages on the 'Nappies and Babycare' aisle.

But there's nothing particularly feminine about periods. They are female processes, pure and simple. No need to hide behind the euphemism of 'feminine', no need to pretend that they are filthy and shameful.

JellySlice · 21/06/2020 12:51

Sorry if that brings out my inner Holden caulfield but Christ I’m done with the hypocrisy .

Then post about the issues that matter to you.

Musicforsmorks · 21/06/2020 12:56

Feminism matters to me, I guess I was holding that in for a while 😁

embarrassingly trendy faux-insta- feminism bothers me, that’s exactly the point.

It shits on feminism. Sadly.

justanotherneighinparadise · 21/06/2020 13:03

Ah it’s the ‘wrong kind of feminism?’ I understand. You lecture us on the right kind of feminism. We’re all ears.

FlamingoAndJohn · 21/06/2020 13:03

And it’s so right on, women’s issues, women’s safety, women’s health, yet none of you Seem to care about this come a general Election.

How the fuck do you know what I care about during elections?

I don’t care about how other people identify or what they do with their bodies.
I care about the removal of women, as can be seen from that list.

PumbaasCucumbas · 21/06/2020 13:07

So you make a point of coming to a feminist board, on a majority women’s website, with a clearly headed thread, to scold people for discussing the feminist issue outlined on the aforementioned thread?

Maybe I should go on an animal welfare website - say a rescue charity that brings dogs in from Greece - and tell them they are misguided and obsessive because they’re not campaigning on the rights of refugee children in the Greek refugee camps. My personal view is the humans are more important but I’m not going to be an arsehole to the kind folk trying to help the animals.

If I want to help the refugees I should campaign/fundraise about that, not co-opt the efforts of the animal welfare people. Here’s a crazy thought, I could actually try to help both?

Another example of the worthy cause/oppression olympics. Like telling the suffragettes that there’s a war on. Or saying that period poverty isn’t an issue because some people use food banks.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 21/06/2020 13:14

I've met Chella as well, AnotherLass.

Chella was spouting menstruator nonsense in schools 7 years ago when I met her. She may well be "menstruator zero".

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 21/06/2020 13:16

Floisme Chella did her MSc into the history and politics of menstruation there.

Last time I saw her she was looking at doing a PhD.

CaraDune · 21/06/2020 13:18

Sigh.

Another poster who seems to hold the view that women can only worry about one thing at once. Must be our tiny lady brains.

Anyway, my response to all of this "Queeriod" shite is to channel Magdalen Burns and just shout "Fuck off, you wankers."

(After all, how do you explain why menstruation is seen as so unclean that women are forced into freezing "menstruation huts" if you can't talk about cultures which systematically use entrenched male power to oppress women.)

heartonastring · 21/06/2020 13:28

OH FOR FFS. REALLY?!!!
sorry for the caps. I'm menstruating