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Rachel McKinnon/Veronic Ivy threatens legal action against own university for poor performance review

106 replies

RoyalCorgi · 13/06/2020 18:40

Read and enjoy:

twitter.com/MatthewGreenf11/status/1271719496097714176

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WorkingItOutAsIGo · 14/06/2020 18:12

I do have to say this thread has given me much joy.

DeRigueurMortis · 14/06/2020 18:23

There is a real disconnect between the language used in most of it and the grade bands awarded.

Absolutely.

Aside from the personal implications I'd say it's a pretty damning assessment of the facility in the context of what they consider to be satisfactory performance.

At work (corporate) our overall assessment grade cannot be higher than the lowest score given on any section - the rationale being that all aspects of your role are equally important and you can't get away with "trading" good performance in one aspect for poor performance in another.

Binglebong · 14/06/2020 21:03

@DeRigueurMortis

There is a real disconnect between the language used in most of it and the grade bands awarded.

Absolutely.

Aside from the personal implications I'd say it's a pretty damning assessment of the facility in the context of what they consider to be satisfactory performance.

At work (corporate) our overall assessment grade cannot be higher than the lowest score given on any section - the rationale being that all aspects of your role are equally important and you can't get away with "trading" good performance in one aspect for poor performance in another.

What an intelligent way of doing it.
2Rebecca · 14/06/2020 22:51

I'm amazed they are teaching philosophy as to me philosophy is about thinking and looking at different viewpoints and they don't come across as having that sort of personality. I cant imagine they came across differently last year or the year before though so am amazed they got the job unless that was the sort of attitude the faculty were looking for

Gncq · 14/06/2020 23:10

For those wondering if Ivy's job will ever suffer at all, please remember this is Canada.

ErrolTheDragon · 14/06/2020 23:17

For those wondering if Ivy's job will ever suffer at all, please remember this is Canada.

It's the College of Charleston, South Carolina.

Mrskeats · 14/06/2020 23:30

poor big Ivy
That made me laugh.
Please can someone tell me why this person has several names?
Plus there's not a chance they would have got a satisfactory in this country. I can't believe they think they are teaching philosophy after the critical thinking skills I've seen on display.
They shouldn't even be in charge of the finger painting in pre-school.

NotBadConsidering · 14/06/2020 23:45

Please can someone tell me why this person has several names?

Given Ivy is Ivy on Twitter with tweets on and off protected, but still uses McKinnon for private Facebook, I wonder if it’s because they were told they needed to tone down their very public aggressive, violent, offensive social media profile.

That worked out well...

ErrolTheDragon · 14/06/2020 23:50

I assumed the more recent name was in part chosen because Ivy is also a name used for women, to avoid being referred to neutrally as McKinnon.

NotBadConsidering · 14/06/2020 23:54

I don’t think Ronnie thought that through if that’s the case.

Aesopfable · 14/06/2020 23:56

This is why such shockingly poor people turn up in high level positions: everyone is desperate to get rid of them and the only safe way to do it is to promote them away from your department/organisation.

NotBadConsidering · 15/06/2020 00:00

Has you read Lionel Shriver’s latest book? The Motion of the Body Through Space. There is a whole section on exactly that. One of the characters loses his job because someone inept is promoted exactly for those reasons. There’s even a mention of Gulags. I suspect Lionel is here somewhere!

Melia100 · 15/06/2020 00:04

I love Lionel, and I had forgotten she had a new book out; putting it on my library list now.

Mrskeats · 15/06/2020 00:13

Thanks that explains it.

Dreeple · 15/06/2020 08:55

Aesopfable This is why such shockingly poor people turn up in high level positions: everyone is desperate to get rid of them and the only safe way to do it is to promote them away from your department/organisation

We call it kicking someone upstairs.

CourtneyLurve · 15/06/2020 10:33

Wow, that evaluation completely savaged Rachel/Ivy's entire agenda! Priceless!

This should be sent to news outlets like NBC every time they trot out a Rachel/Ivy Op-ed on why male bodies should be allowed to compete in women's sports.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 15/06/2020 10:45

Just seen this which suggests McKinnon may not be employed much longer? Surely no College can permit a lecturer to spout this sort of thing online and remain there?

Rachel McKinnon/Veronic Ivy threatens legal action against own university for poor performance review
BuzzShitbagBobbly · 15/06/2020 10:45

(^^ Was posted on FB 2 days ago, so can't confirm the veracity or repercussions.)

OvaHere · 15/06/2020 11:06

@BuzzShitbagBobbly

Just seen this which suggests McKinnon may not be employed much longer? Surely no College can permit a lecturer to spout this sort of thing online and remain there?
Tbh the college made their own bed. They gave cyclepath tenure long after all the problematic things were known about this person. Had they not done that they'd be in a much easier position to take action.
VickyEadieofThigh · 15/06/2020 11:12

This legal action - do you think McK's case is going to be "I identify as someone much more competent, hardworking and not at all a one-trick pony as suggested in that appraisal statement"?

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 15/06/2020 11:33

The problem has always been clear. Ivy claims expertise in one specific area of epistemological research (and Ivy's chosen specialist subject of 'how to bullshit convincingly' should resonate with quite a number of people). But Ivy is using PhD credentials to raid disciplinary boundaries, including those of the physical sciences on which Ivy has no qualifications and expertise - and is representing these views under the mantra of 'Dr Ivy', as if the mere PhD qualification in an entirely unrelated field is enough to lend credibility. It isn't. For a specialist on BS, this is quite revealing as it's disingenuous to say the least.

Interdisciplinary research is important within academia, but there needs to be a connection and dialogue between those disciplines. Ivy is pushing that to its absolute limit, and laying claim to results, conclusions and arguments that are beyond Ivy's ken.

This is what the appraisal takes issue with. HE courses are taught by specialists in very specific disciplines. Ivy has gone beyond that, and is teaching material that Ivy is unqualified to teach. Dropping the ethics and teaching the epistemology that's within Ivy's remit should be the obvious solution. But Ivy's response is predictable, that this should be accounted for not by a university's concern for its own reputation and scholarly expertise, but as some form of 'phobia'.

You gotta hand it to Ivy. In the chosen specialist field of 'how to bullshit convincingly', these employers have got themselves a winner ...

nauticant · 15/06/2020 11:45

I did smile at "HE" and then realised it's standing for Higher Education.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 15/06/2020 11:50

They gave cyclepath tenure

Did they? I thought that was part of the issue/coded eval - unless you pull your socks up tenure isn't happening.

CourtneyLurve · 15/06/2020 11:52

@MarieIVanArkleStinks

Thanks for that breakdown.

Datun · 15/06/2020 11:55

But Ivy's response is predictable, that this should be accounted for not by a university's concern for its own reputation and scholarly expertise, but as some form of 'phobia'.

When IKEA delivering your flatpack one hour too early is also considered transphobia, it's unsurprising.