Well, I've just come out as GC on Facebook...

[SapphireSeptember]

I watched this video this evening, and decided I couldn't keep quiet anymore. So I shared it on Facebook, along with the caption 'women are women, women's rights are human rights,' and thanked JK Rowling for standing up for women.

A male friend of mine replied with 'transwomen are women' said it was a TERF-y video and asked if I'd posted it accidentally. Guess he's no loss as a friend.

HarryHarry

I'm in Canada too. I have a real-life Canadian friends who see the problems with this. You aren't alone!

We really need a way to link up Canadian women on this.

Ah Canada is way further down the rabbit hole than the UK from what I have seen, isn't it actually illegal for you to 'misgender' someone?

I have sorry of come out as GC on FB as well (at least I've shared JK's open letter).

I actually feel quite nervous, which is really unlike me.

@BatShite I think it is. I am actually starting to worry that one of my “friends” will report me.

My husband, who tried to defend me when she called me a terf, works for an American company which is very much TWAW. (On International Women’s Day they chose 2 transwomen and zero biological women in an article celebrating their female employees).

If my friend chose to report him, he could lose his job, which would mean we’d lose everything. All she’d have to say is “Oh he’s transphobic” and they’d believe her. Of course I would have a copy of what I actually wrote to her as evidence that we are NOT transphobic, but I think by their standards, we probably are!

It’s insane how dangerous it is to be GC here!

Sounds horrendous. I still cannot believe Yaniv was taken seriously. But in a country where the laws have been set up the way they have..Yanivs are inevitable, and of course must be taken seriously :(

I don't understand how we got to this point. I really don't. Womens rights are seen as a free for all as who cares about women right? They are just there as default caretakers and should only care about being kind and making men happy.

I genuinely don't get how you can live in the same country where Yaniv did what Yaniv did, say you're a feminist, and stand by it. Think it's fair that any privileged AMAB person (is it ok to say that?) can target minorities to harrass and abuse. Openly. And openly give their reasons for it and people think, 'yeah, sounds fair.'

I haven't said anything on social media. My very woke friends are frothing about how the Guardian (being a 'terfy' paper, obv) is reporting the JKR letter with a headline focusing on her abuse rather than, presumably, her failing to defend being violent bigot scum.

Today I read the blog post in full then called my trans niece to discuss how she's feeling in all this. I was shocked to find how angry she is but beneath it she didn't really understand why and it was clear she hadn't read the original things J.K has said or the full blog post.
I cant believe all this time she thought she could truly change her biological sex. What are they teaching kids in school now? She seems to idolise the trans activists without having a clue of the implications for the rights of women and their children at all, or the degrading filth being thrown at women like J.K just for opening their mouths.
So after that I thought no, I'm posting now. She seems to exist in a little echo chamber of superficial narcissism and think that's what being a woman means. No concept of the male gaze or conditioning whatsoever. It seemed to me a shortsighted and immature mindset. So much for being woke?

Also posted today for first time. Did NOT stop my trans activist friend from seeing it because I respect her enough to believe she is an adult....

@popehilarious Was that meant for me? Sorry if I’m being thick but what did you mean by ‘stand by it’? I do live in the same country as Yaniv (albeit on the other side of that country) and I think he is a disgusting pervert but what can I do about it?

HarryHarry, I read pope's post as meaning your "friend", not you. I feel for you, I've been feeling enraged the past few days. I try to remember that each time we do this, the argument moves a bit further our way, more daylight is shone on the issue, and I truly believe that movement is one way only. I mean when people learn more about the issue, they move from TRA towards GC, not the other way. You've done a good thing, you can step away for a bit if you want xxx

HarryHarry no, sorry, I was referring to your friends who I assume also live in Canada, but obviously this might not be the case!

Can someone tell me please, why can't Transwomen be Transwomen? Why the need to drop the Trans, when they have to get a certificate that vilifies that that have Trans'ed? It says so on actual paper? Just as it says you have got married, or changed your name, or been birthed, or died, or divorced.

Its seems simple to me. TWATW.

@popehilarious Ah yes, my friend does live here too.

I've had a stressful couple of days after posting on fb. I've done it before subtly but this was the most attention it got I think due to JKR. It made me incredibly anxious and I had some upsetting conversations. But I also had some really productive ones as well. I won't be doing it again for a while but a friend messaged me to say thank you and that I had opened her eyes to it all. That meant so much as that is why I put myself through the anxiety of being gc on fb.

Stealth man, you’d have thought so, wouldn’t you!

I've posted a link to JKR blog post plus the Medium screenshots of the tweets and vile attacks.

So far have had 2 people say ah at least we have X writer now we don't have JK and one reacted with a haha. 3 women.

Fuck me.

I did get one private message from a male saying I'm brave to post in her support, which was surprising but positive.

I've just edited my caption to clarify I'm upset about the abuse JKR is receiving. Since it seems to have been interpreted the opposite way by those 3 women.

Edging towards deleting it all but if I can reach just one other person with the truth .. I've just asked one to read JK blog and tell me exactly what it is she disagrees with

StealthMama huge apologies! Bloody autocorrect!

@SapphireSeptember

How have you found today? Have you had much come back? I hope you're ok.

I've sort of come out more too today. Created a specific friends list and went for it after the stuff about the school. I'm escalating more rapidly than I thought, but this is inspired by JKR's essay.

it gets easier every time, so keep going, and whereas last year a few people contacted me privately to agree, nowadays lots of people agree....

@Skateosaurus

Aww, thank for asking about me! I haven't been on FB today (other than to see a few angry reacts to my original post.) My mum has liked it, so that makes me happy (she also saw my thread on here and said she KNEW it was mine. )
I knew who was going to react the most angrily, I don't care anymore. There was another dude mansplaining as well and I just cannot deal with that level of ignorance.
So I've been on here, WhatsApp, Twitter, and YouTube. (I joined Twitter yesterday so I could follow The Grand High Terf, Queen Jo, herself.) And I've been avoiding FB.

Thank you everyone who's posted on this thread. The support I've got from here and from my GC has been most helpful. I still can't believe I did it, but I'm not hiding anymore. (I shall also be leaving a few FB groups because I'm sick of their wokeness.)

I cant believe all this time she thought she could truly change her biological sex

That does seem unbelievable, I mean WTF. I stand with trans women and men but everyone should know you can't biologically change sex.
Science and all that.
Sounds like wasn't paying attention in biology to come out with that comment!
Had a convo with my teen today, we're huge HP fans here and it came up as he'd seen her trending on Twitter and wanted to know what it was all about.
Said it's hard to explain but she'd basically said biological sex is real, which it is, but there's more to it than that as trans people have a right to live as their true selves too by law.
Not being goady, an honest conversation that happened today and just my take on it.

trans women and trans men that should read

@StealthMama

Can someone tell me please, why can't Transwomen be Transwomen? Why the need to drop the Trans, when they have to get a certificate that vilifies that that have Trans'ed? It says so on actual paper? Just as it says you have got married, or changed your name, or been birthed, or died, or divorced.

Its seems simple to me. TWATW.

What good is a male dominance display without affirmation?

popehilarious

People on the west coast might know Yaniv, but here on the east coast I've not met one person who knew anything about the case. It wasn't really reported much, a little in the National Post, but it's considered to right wing to read by most progressives. (Though it's actually moderate right I'd say, maybe like the Times.) The CBC would never touch it.