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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

'I am not just a woman'

54 replies

JellySlice · 27/05/2020 11:02

'Just'? Why 'not just'? Surely the phrase should have been "I am a woman"?

'I am not just a woman'
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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 27/05/2020 11:09

"I am not just/only/merely a woman, I am lots of other things as well" is the message, isn't it? How else would you phrase that to mean the same thing, in the format available? "I am a woman" and then other thing all starting with "and" would be clumsy, I think.

fiftyandfat · 27/05/2020 11:11

I don't like that poster at all.
There is nothing wrong with being "just a woman".
Angry

JellySlice · 27/05/2020 11:19

I interpret it as woman is not good enough, 'woman' is less than 'engineer'. That the expectation is that a woman is not the other attributes listed.

No 'and' would be necessary.

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OneEpisode · 27/05/2020 11:21

I think if the “just a woman” was in quotes they could have got away with it, but as it is it’s awful. I am a woman. I am just a woman. There is nothing wrong with being a woman, I’m proud of being “just a woman”.
I also lead lots of people at work & etc & etc.

DidoLamenting · 27/05/2020 12:38

The poster is awful. I know what they are trying to say but it's awful and if anything has exactly the opposite effect intended.

I don't however think it makes any sense to say one is "proud of being just a woman". There's nothing wrong with being a woman but how can one be proud of something one has no control or input in? I might as well say I'm proud of having blue eyes.

DidoLamenting · 27/05/2020 12:41

They could have omitted all the text with the exception of "leader" "pioneer" "engineer" .I don't like "disruptor- they could use something more positive and connected to being an engineer e.g "innovator" "problem solver"

OhHolyJesus · 27/05/2020 12:53

Could have been

I am an engineer
I am a woman
I am a pioneer
I am a sister
I am a disruptor

It tries but fails in its messaging of hierarchy. Being "not just a woman" makes being a woman the baseline and the lowest of what she is and everything else comes above that. They miss the point that there doesn't need to a a hierarchy at all.

Datun · 27/05/2020 12:58

Sexist crap. You might as well say I'm not just a woman, how dare you insult me.

DidoLamenting · 27/05/2020 12:59

I don't think it needs to say "woman" at all. She is obviously a woman.

"Sister" is awful too.

OneEpisode · 27/05/2020 13:07

I am also proud of my blue eyes. Sorry not sorry.

PicsInRed · 27/05/2020 13:16

Well, thank goodness she qualified as an engineer so that she wasn't just a lowly woman anymore.

BloomedAgain · 27/05/2020 13:19

That is really bad.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 27/05/2020 14:02

It is actually what a lot of women would say. I know this because I have heard them -- usually when they were reacting to someone mansplaining at them.

It has gone along with "Yes, I know. I wrote the paper you are misquoting."

DidoLamenting · 27/05/2020 14:07

OneEpisode

I am also proud of my blue eyes. Sorry not sorry

I reserve pride for something I have actually done or achieved.

Being proud of a physical characteristic one had no control over or input into is the start of a slippery slope.

CaraDune · 27/05/2020 16:07

It's a bloody awful poster, for all the reasons upthread. (I am a woman in STEM, btw.)

Lordfrontpaw · 27/05/2020 16:36

I’m just happy the photo is of a woman. I get pleasure out of such small things these daya

ThinEndoftheWedge · 27/05/2020 16:43

Yep - trying to give something - but actually taking away.

Idiots.

OhHolyJeaus needs to redo it. She has the right idea.

fuckinghellthisshit · 27/05/2020 16:50

FFS

Pipandmum · 27/05/2020 16:54

Feel the same about 'just a mother'. Like that is my sole identity.

EveryoneLoves09876 · 27/05/2020 17:04

As in you are more than your body. See you as who you really are.

Like you are not just a man. You are also a father, brother, gardener, teacher etc.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/05/2020 17:26

I very much doubt they would use the tagline "you are not just a man". Because no one expects men to be written off as "just" a man.

JellySlice · 27/05/2020 18:31

This is meant to encourage women in STEM, yet to me it reads like a woman feels the need to justify her presence in STEM.

What woman in STEM thinks of herself as 'just' a woman?

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Datun · 27/05/2020 18:36

Strewth, can you imagine?

You're not just a man, you're a disruptor. Yes you are.

334bu · 27/05/2020 18:38

Just a woman also includes anyone who identifies as such according to IET

Rollingtheball · 27/05/2020 18:40

Yes I get what they’re trying to say (we’re more than a gender) but they’re inadvertently feeding the narrative that being (just) a woman isn’t good enough.

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