GMB Statement on transphobia

[MingeofDeath]

www.gmb.org.uk/online-Q-A

@Needmoresleep The title of the post is: "GMB statement on transphobia" why do you assume I shouldn't talk about transgender issues with a title like that? Seems like you don't like to hear different opinions form the usual ones on here. Well it's called balance.

Seems like you don't like to hear different opinions form the usual ones on here. Well it's called balance.

If you could back your opinion up with any sort of coherent argument, you're right, that would make a complete change. You do realise, that your line of commenting is so common you fall over it?

falselmage you are a misogynist.

Excuse me while I just PMSL (childbirth and menopause ruined pelvic floor).

It's quite ridiculous to suggest GMB don't support women just because they're saying they do support the transgender community, which consists of men and women.

The GMB have just refused to support a large community of women, 100s of 1000s of women - many, no doubt, themselves GMB members - on the say-so of a few TRAs.

Actions speak louder than words.

@Datun I was just saying well done GMB for supporting the LGBT+ community. There's lots of options saying it's a bad thing, I'm saying it's a good thing. Are you trying to control the direction of the conversation Datun?

We will immediately pause our Mumsnet work,

www.gmb.org.uk/online-q-a

You are saying well done for not supporting women then? Denying 100's possibly 1000's women help by refusing to engage with MN because of one tweet on Twitter. Because that's what it sounds like you are saying.

Looks like MNHQ has secured someone better anyway.

Hopefully experts who are happy for women to express opinions that men might not approve of.

Seems like you don't like to hear different opinions form the usual ones on here. Well it's called balance.

What is really needed on a feminist forum discussing how to defend the rights and meet the needs of female people is the balance of someone reminding female people their place is to serve the male people and to know their place.

Think I'll just pop over to the vegan forum and point out to them how important and delicious steak is. And then the Catholic forum to dump atheism snarking about the place. Except I won't, because I have respect for other people. You're busy scolding females for not sufficiently respecting males, while having no respect for females or female needs or female voices or female concerns at all.

Still no definition of what FalseImage believes is the cut off criteria for males to be able to enter female spaces? No rationale? I'm amazed, truly.

@Ereshkigalangcleg This thread is about the GMB and their statement on transphobia, it's not about you harassing me to answer your questions on definitions for transgender individuals.

🎶Because we want to, because we want to.🎶

Such dramatic language. Asking questions is not harassment. The fact that you cannot answer any of them- well.

So they haven’t said anything today then?
Ridiculous

Datun I was just saying well done GMB for supporting the LGBT+ community

Prioritising gender over sex is the absolute opposite of supporting the lesbian community.

Crazy.

My reproductive female biology has affected and continues to affect my career, earning capacity and my economic future within the world into which I was born.

I have paid union subs to two different unions.

I belong to a sex class by law and I am entitled to protection from sex discrimination under the Equality Act.

The secondary discrimination effects which have been writ very starkly onto the surface of society by this pandemic - the second and third shifts for women, the pay gaps, the mental loads, the domestic abuse - are real and they are shit.

GMB is letting women down incredibly badly here.

Yes, JamieLee.

So. Have the weasels actually said anything?

it's not about you harassing me to answer your questions on definitions for transgender individuals.

This isn't about trans people. It's about males. The GMB have clearly misunderstood what many feminist women on Mumsnet care about with regards to this issue. So yes, that definition is important.

Someone also needs to show GMB what the political lobby they're supporting does and says to members of the trans community who dare to express thoughts or feelings different to the dictats of that political lobby. It isn't the 'community' they're supporting.

The must know - so either they are scared or have some people working there who are of this opinion.

Is this the future of trade unionism?

“GMB, please help, my boss has sacked me with no notice and I don’t know what to do!”

“Well, according to our records, you follow JK Rowling on Twitter, so you’re on your own. Bye now!”

Even if you object to feminism, antics like this are a betrayal of basic trade unionism. The unions are class organisations. They organise everyone in a specific sector, irrespective of their political opinions or beliefs.

And the reason for this is quite simple. It's only through unity and solidarity that unions have any power.

It is really quite bizarre that feminism has become the belief that is beyond the pale and unacceptable. The unions will willingly represent Conservatives, Communists, Liberals and everything in between, you can be a racist or a radical, as long as you're not on Mumsnet.

And of course remember the TRAs who actually attacked a picket line. because they objected to someone on it having exercised her political liberty to attend a meeting that they disapproved of.

I've thought about starting a union for women before. I notice lots of indications of interest in this thread. How would I do it?

I'd us the protected characteristics of sex to give it basis law, which would mean we could consider accepting women who identify as men or as non binary? The former would mean we were trans inclusive.