The Proud Trust

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So very glad that MP Jackie Doyle-Price has picked up on this, but this is the kind of stuff now being submitted as PSHE teaching materials for schools, for ages 13+

Transgender Trend have done a complete analysis here https://www.transgendertrend.com/proud-trust-nothing-proud/

Jackie's original tweet is here: https://twitter.com/jackiedp/status/1263450274422808577?s=21

Can someone send the tweets to baroness Nicholson on Twitter?

I cant cos I'm still not back on.

Am waiting for a reply from my MP about this. Evidently the awful graphic (and likely illegal) evidence has shocked him into silence

Sorry to bump an old thread, but this Toolkit is being reported on in today's Times:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/government-gives-pupils-sex-advice-on-the-roll-of-a-dice-80hmsplws

Good quotes from Safe Schools Alliance, the Baroness and Jackie Doyle Price.

I wrote to my Conservative female MP about this in May. Chased twice. No response. We have such appalling representation.

I showed a friend of mine and she was so horrified she could hardly believe it was true. Yet my MP has not bothered herself with a response.

Pleased to see this getting such prominence in the Times.
Share token here:
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/92d62c6e-ead9-11ea-8446-c5c69e8507b4?shareToken=2148983cc6d4d41d4f7f6715fda4f041

Thanks for the share token @persistentwoman - I still haven't worked out how to do that!

Great to see it getting some sunlight - but I do wish they had reported the word "object" in their list of words on the dice. That shows the extent of real boundary pushing that's going on.

Notable but (to me) disturbing that most of the comments from men so far are saying they don't see anything wrong with this and kids need to learn about sex somehow.

It really is up to women to make sure safeguarding isn't completely trodden into the mire isn't it?

Does anyone have any info on / proof of the links between the Proud Trust and Tatchell ?

Tatchel is Teflon.

There's a thread about this in AIBU with the OP getting shouted down by several posters insisting that it's all cool and why all the fuss about a perfectly fine and dandy teaching resource?

Grim.

I mean a thread about the horrific dice game.

Zeugma that thread is building very quickly, not sure there's too much 'fine and dandy'. Also, Times having difficult getting through all it's comments. Same happened yesterday. Think people are getting really hacked off with the Governments lack of thought and action.

Yes, I've been back to it now, highname, and glad to see that it's getting more considered responses. When I looked at it earlier, it was very worrying to see that the OP was - with a few notable exceptions - very much the voice of reason and sanity in the first few pages.

Am there. Blundering about. 😖😂

You are great littlbrown - things are looking up when I see you on a thread!

Whittle was involved.... light dawns.

This is what happens, when you let adults with no qualifications whatsoever in education or in working with children or safeguarding training but a niche personal political agenda make school resources.

And can't be buggered to do due diligence, properly vet what they produce, or in any way engage your brain, and haven't thought this through from your safeguarding training pov. It's a shameful failure of whoever commissioned this and waved it through.

And frankly yes, would pull my kids out and they can take me to court over it. I will be glad to explain to the judge why in great detail, and hopefully with as many tabloids involved as possible. I may also reference Whittle's comments here about guides being provided with the morning after pill/condoms rather than sex separation on camps, and Whittle's complete lack of awareness of Samaritan guidelines when throwing suicide references around, and how this gives useful insight when deciding someone's ability to be responsible about children and safeguarding ahead of personal agenda.

@Zeugma

There's a thread about this in AIBU with the OP getting shouted down by several posters insisting that it's all cool and why all the fuss about a perfectly fine and dandy teaching resource?

Grim.

The OP is getting a lot of support too. I think the ratio is very much that actual, genuine parents are not happy with the dice game.

As Sarah pointed out, this is part of a bigger agenda.

I think it’s very obvious what/who benefits from children being “willing and aware" of extreme sexual practices and being taught that not only are they normal but that the girls no longer have any safe space they can hide in.

If you look at the full picture :

No private spaces
No awareness of their own bodies ( women have dicks now)
No boundaries allowed
Dangerous sexual practices normalised

I missed this first time round. It's grooming plain and simple.

It's also the normalisation of more extreme sexual practices which many men need the next generation of adult sexual partners to agree to because thanks to their porn addictions they can't get it up anymore for simple old fashioned sex. Once again, porn is the instruction manual for our children's future sex lives. Men are out of control with it. Throwing away the sexual highway code and taking our kids for a traumatising ride. Ends worst case scenario with the car crash of a 'rough sex' murder.

I really don’t want to have to use the kinds of words that may be needed to explain why these acts are wrong to my dd.
Telling her what daddy did and why mummy ran away is a discussion I don’t want schools to force me to have.

@Antibles

I missed this first time round. It's grooming plain and simple.

It's also the normalisation of more extreme sexual practices which many men need the next generation of adult sexual partners to agree to because thanks to their porn addictions they can't get it up anymore for simple old fashioned sex. Once again, porn is the instruction manual for our children's future sex lives. Men are out of control with it. Throwing away the sexual highway code and taking our kids for a traumatising ride. Ends worst case scenario with the car crash of a 'rough sex' murder.

It's a frickin outrage. I can't believe this is being promoted in schools. It is a deliberate attempt to demolish boundaries at a time when they should be reinforced because of the ubiquity of porn. Teens should be taught about resisting peer pressure, about consent, independent decision making and about their absolute right to refuse aggressive sexual demands. I actually blame the government for this. WTF are they bankrolling this BS for?