The Proud Trust

[WootMoggie]

So very glad that MP Jackie Doyle-Price has picked up on this, but this is the kind of stuff now being submitted as PSHE teaching materials for schools, for ages 13+

Transgender Trend have done a complete analysis here https://www.transgendertrend.com/proud-trust-nothing-proud/

Jackie's original tweet is here: https://twitter.com/jackiedp/status/1263450274422808577?s=21

I'm convinced it's part of a move to sexually anaesthetise teenagers so that they think anything that anyone proposes doing with them is completely normal, and that if they don't want to do it there must be something wrong with them.

This does seem abusive to me. At the age of 13, I'd never heard of sex toys, anal sex, or any other unusual practices. Granted, I was autistic and fairly naive and maybe most of my peers knew much more than me - but some young teenagers definitely won't be aware of these things. Bringing them up at school seems horrendously inappropriate. Adults shouldn't be encouraging teenagers to discuss different ways of having sex. How could anyone think this was a good idea?

The Proud Trust played a key role in development of resources for Children in Care, social workers & foster carers with Three Circles (private fostering organisation) & Tara Hewitt (one of the founders of TELI)

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3324578-Vunerabilities-of-Looked-After-Children-Social-Work-CP-restricted-by-affirmation-requirement-Trans-Youth-in-Care-Toolkit

Right.

I just keep looking at the claim that they cured anorexia and suicidal tendencies in that girl. It reads like one of those mad claims made by faith healers.

The transgendertrend analysis is eye opening.

www.transgendertrend.com/proud-trust-nothing-proud

Listing body parts it would appear that breasts are left out entirely. And, apparently the clitoris.

Did you see this in the comments?

"I recently attended “training” provided by this organisation where in a polite and professional manner I raised concerns about how their advice contravened safeguarding principles and the Equality Act . A week later after I had tried to follow up these concerns the trainer lodged a complaint against me !"

I read about this yesterday and found it horrifying and depressing. How on earth have we got to the place where this is being presented to children in schools?

We recently had a letter from school (My daughters are 15 and 17) which mentioned that PSHE content was to be given by an 'external provider' - I will absolutely be asking for details on this.

Someone's (on here?) pointed out that the trustees are (amongst others)

• Stephen Whittle
• Christine Burns

https://www.theproudtrust.org/about-us-news-views/meet-our-patrons/

Sorry - Patrons, not Trustees.

Thank you for sharing - I'm pretty new to this while discussion topic arena. But what the actual f**k. I will write to my MP. But what else can I do?

Well, one thing that would seem to be a good idea (if you're a parent) is to demand to see the teaching materials used in your child's school.

My primary school was happy to oblige (and the material there was all good stuff)

Part of the reason why people are getting vigilant about this is because lockdown has necessitated parents being in the loop about what materials their children are being.

...being given.

(finger slipped and posted too soon)

Agreed WootMoggie - parents must insist on seeing the materials and details of all external speakers and organisations involved in a school. The new SRE guidelines advise schools to exercise due diligence and check out any organisations they use for SRE.
It is now apparent that there are a significant number of dodgy adults and organisations involved in producing SRE materials for schools and - until this kind of abusive unsuitable material is exposed - few schools will realise what they're actually dealing with until it's too late.
It's an awful state of affairs that parents have to do this but as regulatory capture is stopping many adults in schools from safeguarding children, the parents will have to do it until sanity prevails.

Shouldn't OFSTED also cover external trainers, particularly if delivering a mandated curriculum?

This is just unbelievable. Why is this considered acceptable as a school topic? It's ironic, isn't it? In some aspects, children's behaviour, particularly middle class children, has perhaps never been so regimented and choreographed. But this, which could be perceived as quasi grooming is considered suitable for schools? Absolutely astonishing.

Given how few trans people there are statistically speaking isn't it a fascinating coincidence that there seem to be so many of them associated with groups like this? And always the same names too.

13 year olds do not want to play games in which they discuss sex in explicit detail with their teacher or any other school related adult. It's weird and creepy and generally inappropriate, especially if as people are saying they're not allowed to opt out. In what other context is a child not allowed to decline an adult's suggestion that they have a conversation about whether or not they might enjoy having objects shoved up their anus?

Thank you for sharing - I'm pretty new to this while discussion topic arena. But what the actual fk. I will write to my MP. But what else can I do?

Safe Schools Alliance have resources to help parents & carers challenge schools & local authorities
safeschoolsallianceuk.net/get-involved/

Anything about consent or is it just about normalising anal-sex?

I know that we're all busy - and exhausted from having to repeatedly tackle this but just a quick bump to urge people to write to their MP about this. If only to see how they respond to the funding from the tampon tax being used to devise games for 13 year olds to play in a lesson about inserting objects into their anus / vagina etc.

In what other context is a child not allowed to decline an adult's suggestion that they have a conversation about whether or not they might enjoy having objects shoved up their anus?

I don't have enough expletives.

Yeah, it would be bad enough if the kids could opt out but the fact that they can't? Not so much a red flag as a giant blinking red neon sign.

DD used to attend the proud trust youth activities.

The staff were very nice. They were far more competent in basic mental health issues than teachers at school.

However, there were no other young lesbians of bi girls there. Every single person was a trans boy. DD felt she was being treated as a stereotypical girl not a person so as to validate trans boys’ gender. The protection she had from gender stereotypes really came from English and History classes at school, so she could see it wasn’t okay for her to be treated as a stereotype of femininity.

She had no peer group at Proud Trust of lesbians or bi girls so found it pointless to continue going, despite the lovely staff. She was able to get mental health support from 42nd Street, a Manchester young people’s mental health service.

She had to wait until university to meet a lesbian and bi peer group.

That's really sad green

I cant figure out how on one hand sex doesnt exist but they also need it to define themselves against but it's also not stereotypes yet gender cant exist without using stereotypes to display it...makes no sense at all...

Every single person was a trans boy. DD felt she was being treated as a stereotypical girl not a person so as to validate trans boys’ gender. The protection she had from gender stereotypes really came from English and History classes at school, so she could see it wasn’t okay for her to be treated as a stereotype of femininity.

Can you give any examples of the way she was treated?