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Guardian interview with Juno Dawson

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RoyalCorgi · 11/05/2020 09:56

The Guardian is once more peddling male fantasies of what a teenage girl is:

www.theguardian.com/books/2020/may/11/juno-dawson-trans-alice-wonderland-interview-spice-girls

Dawson has written a novel based on Alice in Wonderland, but with a trans lead character:

'Wonderland is also a wake-up call to anyone who believes gender reassignment might be a happy-ever-after. Alice has recently returned to school after three months in hospital following a suicide attempt. “While I’m delighted with my perky little boobs,” she says, “I was profoundly disappointed that my urge to cut myself didn’t vanish with the first milligram of oestrogen to pass my lips.” Her problems, Dawson points out, are those of all too many young women. “When I’m at the Hay book festival or at Yale, these teenagers come into my signing queues and they are scarred. It must be talked about because it permanently affects girls.”'

Yes, teenage girls are really delighted with their perky little boobs, you misogynist little creep.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/05/2020 09:57

Ugh.

Newuser123123 · 11/05/2020 09:58

I felt very uncomfortable reading it

BringbackLang · 11/05/2020 10:08

Sounds like a badly written sexualised fantasy. Perky little boobs? No girl or woman thinks like that. Not one.

They don't have a clue what a woman is do they?

Yuck.

OldCrone · 11/05/2020 10:17

In a previous interview Dawson said:

"I just wanted to get f**d like a woman. That's what it's about. It's not about what hole it's going in"

OldCrone · 11/05/2020 10:21
AbsintheFriends · 11/05/2020 10:21

She came out in an interview with the news website Buzzfeed the day after Germaine Greer declared on Newsnight that “transgender women are not women” – and two years later took revenge by pulling out of a book festival in protest at the inclusion of Greer

Gosh, what devastating revenge Grin

NotBadConsidering · 11/05/2020 10:22

She came out in an interview with the news website Buzzfeed the day after Germaine Greer declared on Newsnight that “transgender women are not women” – and two years later took revenge by pulling out of a book festival in protest at the inclusion of Greer.

I’m sure Germaine was devastated 😆😆😆

NotBadConsidering · 11/05/2020 10:23

X post! Poor Germaine. I imagine she took a long hard look at herself in the mirror that night when she realised she’d been bested. How did her life reach such a point when someone could pull out of a book festival because of her? I’m sure she checked her thinking 🤣🤣🤣

NotAGirl · 11/05/2020 10:24

What 17 year old girl wants to have sex with random married men Hmm not denying they want sex but boring married men?

Reads like a male fantasy

Lottapianos · 11/05/2020 10:26

Read this interview this morning and Hmm the whole way through. Juno has not a clue what a woman actually is, and zero interest in finding out either. Seems to just want to be a walking fantasy

AbsintheFriends · 11/05/2020 10:30

Grin NotBad

Germaine's subsequent backtracking and vociferous assertion that TWAW is testament to the power of Dawson's actions.

Oh - wait...

Datun · 11/05/2020 10:37

Alice is shadowed by a mysterious character in a cat hoodie, while the Tweedle twins are social media influencers with an abusive sexual interest in transgender girls.

Course they are.

corlan · 11/05/2020 10:41

Interesting how transwomen so often fetishise the female body. As if that is all being a woman is about to them.

Datun · 11/05/2020 10:45

Dawson writes, “their bodies hard and wet. Firm hands grab at my breasts, pull on my nipples.

Dest lord.

Clymene · 11/05/2020 10:47

And the lead trans character is raped by two teenage girls? Yeah right

What a load of misogynist male fantasy bullshit.

KaronAVyrus · 11/05/2020 10:49

Male body writers can never write female characters. They always write about their lingerie/nipples etc instead of what’s going on in their brain.

Datun · 11/05/2020 10:50

Is this meant for teenagers???

Clymene · 11/05/2020 10:53

That's a great article OldCrone. It wouldn't be published today

Clymene · 11/05/2020 10:55

Allegedly Datun. Although I struggle to imagine a book being published about a positive spin on a teenage girl who has sex with multiple married men. Women who do that are never heroines, they're sluts.

OldCrone · 11/05/2020 10:59

Clymene
The gay male author of that earlier article is unimpressed by Dawson's assertion that being gay is a consolation prize for not being a woman.

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 11/05/2020 11:02

That is vomit inducing. Just when I think it’s no longer possible for the Grubian to drop any lower in my eyes, they prove me wrong. 🤢

NiteFlights · 11/05/2020 11:08

The Graun never allow comments on this misogynist shit!

RoyalCorgi · 11/05/2020 11:18

Just when I think it’s no longer possible for the Grubian to drop any lower in my eyes, they prove me wrong.

It's so depressing. It's just abhorrent. In the print edition, it immediately follows an interview by Hadley Freeman with Tony Slattery, which is an outstanding piece of journalism, in my view, and the kind of content that keeps me buying the paper. I don't see how an editor could have read this completely uncritical interview with Dawson and thought it acceptable.

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Datun · 11/05/2020 11:19

What is a middle-aged late transitioner (5 years ago apparently) doing writing porny novels for teenage girls? Seriously.

ThrowingGoodAfterBad · 11/05/2020 11:22

Sooo... she's basically written a Mills&Boon book for trans and thinks this will 'change the world'?? What fools keep giving these people airtime?

The teenage girls that I know who are scared are scared of teenage boys and men, particularly the creepy ones who can't get their minds away from wanking off and the aggressive ones who can't keep their hands to themselves and won't stay out of their spaces.

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