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Dr Jesicca Taylor on R4 Woman's Hour today, discussing her new book "Why Women Are Blamed For Everything: Exploring Victim Blaming Of Women Subjected to Violence and Trauma"

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R0wantrees · 23/04/2020 09:26

"Why does society blame the victims of sexual violence rather than the perpetrators? Dr Jessica Taylor explains her research into how victim blaming works"
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000hgh7

"Overview

She asked for it. She was flirting. She was drinking. She was wearing a revealing dress. She was too confident. She walked home alone. She stayed in that relationship. She was naïve. She didn’t report soon enough. She didn’t fight back. She wanted it. She lied about it. She comes from a bad area. She was vulnerable. She should have known. She should have seen it coming. She should have protected herself.

Victim blaming of women is prevalent and normalised in society.

What causes us to blame women who have been abused, raped, trafficked, assaulted or harassed by men? Why are we uncomfortable with placing all of the blame on perpetrators for their crimes against women?

Based on three years of doctoral research and ten years of practice with women and girls, Dr Jessica Taylor explores the many reasons we blame women for male violence committed against them. Written in her unique style and backed up by decades of evidence, this book exposes the powerful forces in society and individual psychology which compel us to blame women subjected to male violence."
victimfocus-resources.com/products/why-women-are-blamed-for-everything-exploring-victim-blaming-of-women-subjected-to-violence-and-trauma-by-dr-jessica-taylor-special-edition-hardback-signed-by-author

twitter.com/DrJessTaylor/status/1253234149441318912

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Lordfrontpaw · 27/04/2020 17:40

I think we must hang around the same (virtual) bars...

insideandout3 · 27/04/2020 19:42

"Name and image removed from The Tab article since first publication. I wonder why."

What an absolute coward of a so-called journalist Jake Loader is for removing identifying information from his article like that.

At a time when Dr. Taylor is dealing with a deluge of threats and having her life hacked, Mr. Loader thought it was a good idea to hide the photo and information about the misogynist Hannah Thompson while putting up an entirely unnecessary photo of Jessica and her girlfriend hugging.

DickKerrLadies · 27/04/2020 19:47

Very useful to demonstrate that TRA misogyny is just the same as MRA misogyny for people that didn't already get that.

Isn't it just?

Lordfrontpaw · 27/04/2020 19:49

Who wants to see a grown human plastered in makeup and dressed up like a Japanese cartoon character anyway? I’d much rather see the photo Jess and her fiancé in Paris...

insideandout3 · 27/04/2020 20:02

"Who wants to see a grown human plastered in makeup and dressed up like a Japanese cartoon character anyway? "

People who read news for information about misogyny to connect the dots on how men with a porn-fueled violation fetish are getting away with damaging the lives of hard-working feminist women like Dr. Taylor.

Lordfrontpaw · 27/04/2020 20:19

True. Otherwise it does put you off your tea. Usually they look as imagined anyway.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/04/2020 20:53

Indeed.

Lordfrontpaw · 27/04/2020 21:07

Oh. Jameela’s bought a copy too.

nauticant · 27/04/2020 21:09

To publicly burn it?

Lordfrontpaw · 27/04/2020 21:12

I don’t think she knows what it’s about... 😆 yet... I’m sure she will be ‘educated’ soon enough by her little friends. Then have to grovel profusely and come out as half bat or something.

bettybeans · 28/04/2020 00:56

I hope Jameela reads it cover to cover. She could do with learning a few things and exercising her brain.

ContessaferJones · 28/04/2020 07:26

That was both interesting and depressing, thank you!

DefinitivelyMe · 28/04/2020 07:35

There’s something unsettling and unbelievable about her. I’m not saying some of her work isn’t okay or even great, but it’s hardly groundbreaking stuff that we didn’t all know already. There are wiser words said here, every single day. As for saying she’s had ten years of experience with women and girls, Isn’t she 27? She runs/ran a men’s charity, Did an OU degree, then got her PHD (with huge dramas and tales of being targeted) recently, I can’t see how she’s “worked with women and girls for ten years” that sound like actual psychological work.... it’s definitely not. She’s also a forensic psychologist, not an actual practicing psychologist, and the book (like all of hers) is self published.

We should be very careful in who we aggrandise. I get the feeling she’s a bit like that Camilla woman from kids company, she just doesn’t ring true. There are not many people who self publicise with such high praise, it’s weird.

Winesalot · 28/04/2020 07:58

Jameela has deleted her tweet , of course. I am not sure how she could explain just how she herself reconciles the fact that a transwoman ‘ambassador’ for secondary school girls could write such sexual harassment about the author of a book about the victim blaming of females in sexual crimes. .....

And they say it would never happen, that TW AW and support women and fight for other suppressed people.

Lordfrontpaw · 28/04/2020 08:10

If course she did. I assume she got a telling off from her ‘friends’ and bullied (oh the irony) into deleting the tweet (because that makes them go away doe ever). I’m waiting for the inevitable victim tweet from her ‘don’t be mean to me...’

HarrietTheShy · 28/04/2020 08:16

Jameela has deleted her tweet

LOL. This sums up Jameela and her confused social justice responses. She doesn't even know what she's allowed to support anymore.

Lordfrontpaw · 28/04/2020 08:16

She should have asked first.

FNUSNU · 30/04/2020 22:39

Why has there been backlash? The title for one, a sweeping statement and not true. Most people sympathise with victims rather than blaming them. She's a well known feminist which had obvious conformation bias implications. Women are more likely to suffer violence in same-sex relationships and are raped by other women in prison. This book simply furthers the males are evil, women are victims narrative and ignores reality. You have all probably seen that often the first person to victim blame is another woman. Women shouldn't stand for misogyny and men shouldn't stand for misandry, even if it is dressed as feminist research. The resources on her website are all radfem/misandrist in nature so I can't blame men for getting angry. We all need to be more altruistic in our outlook. Men and women murder, rape and abuse. Men and women are murdered, raped and abused.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 30/04/2020 22:43
Biscuit
FloralBunting · 30/04/2020 22:50

Oo, she really did prod those sensitive bloke spots. Lololol

Soontobe60 · 30/04/2020 23:10

@FNUSNU

Have you actually read the book, or are you just surmising it's contents? I'd be amazed if you had, seeing as its only gone on sale this week 😳

Men and women murder, rape and abuse. Men and women are murdered, raped and abused.

True, but in what proportion? How many men have been murdered in the UK during lockdown? How many women are murdered each year? Raped each year? Abused each year?
Before you spout bollocks, get the facts.

Soontobe60 · 30/04/2020 23:13

@FNUSNU

Also, women cannot commit rape as they don't have a penis.
*Rape is a statutory offence in England and Wales. The offence is created by section 1[1] of the Sexual Offences Act 2003:

(1) A person (A) commits an offence if—

(a) he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis*

Datun · 30/04/2020 23:39

This book simply furthers the males are evil, women are victims narrative and ignores reality.

Mate, the reality is that 98% of all sex crimes are committed by men, 90% of violent crime is committed by men, in fact almost all crimes are committed by men.

Last time I looked at the statistics 14,000 men were in prison for sex offences, and 120 women. There were only 5000 women in prison in all. Over 60% of whom have head injuries from domestic abuse. And most are there for financial crime.

But hey, you keep blaming Jessica Taylor for recognising it, rather than the men for doing it.

FNUSNU · 01/05/2020 08:20

The suicide rate is much higher in men, many kill themselves before their abusive partner does. Many more men are murdered than women every year, they are more likely to suffer violence. Female on male abuse is grossly undereported, often ignored, often they get arrested because the abuser says they were abused by the man. It's nit bollocks, you're blinded by your inherrent misandry and her sloppy confirmation bias.

FNUSNU · 01/05/2020 08:23

Datsun - F on F rape happens a lot in prison, also in same sex relationships, as does all forms of DA. Perhaps consent rate on victims for a change which includes those the book chooses to ignore.

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