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Dr Jesicca Taylor on R4 Woman's Hour today, discussing her new book "Why Women Are Blamed For Everything: Exploring Victim Blaming Of Women Subjected to Violence and Trauma"

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R0wantrees · 23/04/2020 09:26

"Why does society blame the victims of sexual violence rather than the perpetrators? Dr Jessica Taylor explains her research into how victim blaming works"
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000hgh7

"Overview

She asked for it. She was flirting. She was drinking. She was wearing a revealing dress. She was too confident. She walked home alone. She stayed in that relationship. She was naïve. She didn’t report soon enough. She didn’t fight back. She wanted it. She lied about it. She comes from a bad area. She was vulnerable. She should have known. She should have seen it coming. She should have protected herself.

Victim blaming of women is prevalent and normalised in society.

What causes us to blame women who have been abused, raped, trafficked, assaulted or harassed by men? Why are we uncomfortable with placing all of the blame on perpetrators for their crimes against women?

Based on three years of doctoral research and ten years of practice with women and girls, Dr Jessica Taylor explores the many reasons we blame women for male violence committed against them. Written in her unique style and backed up by decades of evidence, this book exposes the powerful forces in society and individual psychology which compel us to blame women subjected to male violence."
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twitter.com/DrJessTaylor/status/1253234149441318912

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 23/04/2020 09:40

I'm horrified by how angry some men are about her work. She has had to get in contact with police re the many threats she has been receiving - yet another reminder that the work of feminism is not done.

R0wantrees · 23/04/2020 09:50

It is horrifying.
Flowers & solidarity

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Dr Jesicca Taylor on R4 Woman's Hour today, discussing her new book "Why Women Are Blamed For Everything: Exploring Victim Blaming Of Women Subjected to Violence and Trauma"
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Singasonga · 23/04/2020 09:52

She's been very outspoken online. She's been very confident and impressive, but I was wondering when the freaks would decide they could attack her for it. She gets flack both from the old skool incels and the trans incels.

R0wantrees · 23/04/2020 10:41

It was an excellent interview.
So much there to be aware of.

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HorseRadishFemish · 23/04/2020 10:54

Dr. Jessica Taylor ought to have her own show.

Lollygaggles · 23/04/2020 11:15

The abuse she's had is horrendous. And from men who haven't even read the book ( it's not out yet as I understand.) She's had her WiFi hacked, been trolled, threatened and abused despicably. How dare a woman speak up eh?

Jess if you read this - respect, strength and love to you. 💐

NeurotrashWarrior · 23/04/2020 12:53

I'm definitely listening later.

Wow, I can't believe how those men are so fucked off with her.

NeurotrashWarrior · 23/04/2020 12:54

Although actually I can.all these women who put themselves on the line for other women and girls Thanks

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 23/04/2020 13:05

That was a great interview. More power to her elbow. So many simple things that seem obvious when they're pointed out, e.g. not saying to a child 'if you go onto the internet xyz might happen to you, you have to learn how to keep yourself safe' - instead saying 'some people use the internet to do xyz to others, if you think that's happening, here's what to do'.

Mrsmorton · 23/04/2020 13:07

God she was bloody brilliant. I've gone proper fan girl.

TheShoesa · 23/04/2020 13:50

It's available on BBC sounds now. Segment starts at 25.30

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000hgh7

(Episode has Zoe Ball on the Big Night In as the image)

SisterWendyBuckett · 23/04/2020 14:00

Thanks for the link, will listen this afternoon. She's such an inspirational woman Thanks

WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 23/04/2020 14:14

Interesting interview, thanks for posting OP. Have just ordered the book.

Lordfrontpaw · 23/04/2020 14:54

I thought I heard a snippet of this when I was working this morning and was going to go back and listen to if after work. I have now ordered my copy (via her website). She is getting dogs' abuse and has had to call the police.

HollowTalk · 23/04/2020 14:58

It was really interesting and so fucking depressing. Now this news has depressed me even more.

Lordfrontpaw · 23/04/2020 15:01

It's no surprise though is it - dammit. I hope the police pull their fingers out and go after these men (most likely) with the same vigour as when someone gets a gender wrong (or right, depending).

Datun · 23/04/2020 15:29

That was a fascinating segment. She says about women who have a voice and use it "...the quickest way to shut her up is to scare her, abuse her."

And the very next thing is she's been hacked and the police are called.

HollowTalk · 23/04/2020 16:50

It made me realise how lucky we are to have Woman's Hour. Who else would've included that interview?

LunariaAlba · 23/04/2020 17:05

I wish Jennie Murray had followed up on the question about why women and men blame victims equally. Yes misogyny, yes patriarchy but why has the figure for women blaming victims become equal with men's. Patiarchy and misogyny existed before. What's changed?

Muttonindistress · 23/04/2020 19:39

That really struck me as well Lunaria. The explanation that it makes people feel safer to victim blame, because you can tell yourself it won’t happen to me if I behave differently, makes a lot of sense, I think, and
would help to explain women doing it. But I can’t think why women would be more likely to do it now than previously. Or is that men are less likely to - and that’s why it’s equalised? Be nice to think it’s the latter.

Socrates11 · 23/04/2020 20:05

Jessica is an excellent writer on/around this subject, so I'm looking forward to hearing her speak.

The abuse for writing her book is so meanspirited, abusive & unecessary. Why do men think it's necessary for others to hear/see their spitefulness & what are they hoping to gain from it? It must be pretty obvious to people that know them what incontinent arseholes they are, proving Lewis''s law.

Dr Jesicca Taylor on R4 Woman's Hour today, discussing her new book "Why Women Are Blamed For Everything: Exploring Victim Blaming Of Women Subjected to Violence and Trauma"
TimeforTea20 · 23/04/2020 20:34

I'm an adult survivor of CSA, I was abused from birth, all my life I've been blamed even after my abuser went on to get 20 years in prison.

I have experienced shocking attitudes from both male & female GPs & IAPT Trauma Informed CBT Counselling. With the focus being on what's wrong with me and/or my behaviour, when I know I'm having a normal & rational response to the traumas of my past & a horrendous trial.

I have pointed this out to a therapists, as they struggle to help me, & seem to take it almost offensively, as I don't have drink or drug issues, or unhealthy coping mechanisms & I've had a good career and stable life, which they always seem quite shocked by. Yet I still need help.

I'm a member of the All Party Parliament Group for Adult Survivors of Childhood Abuse & the research found only 16% of Adult Survivors found Mental Health services of use. I think this point hits the nail on the head as to the reason why.

Thank you for doing this research if your reading 💐

TimeforTea20 · 23/04/2020 20:48

I think it's that men are victim blaming less due to awareness, the current climate in relation to addressing the issues and I'd say the main one is many more males are now speaking about their experiences of sexual crimes and if a man can feel empathy towards a male victim it then is easier to feel that same empathy for female victims too.

I think historically men saw female rape victims as the lying, attention seeking, dramatic female, in fact this was used in court 8 years ago to try to tear me down because his team were clutching at straws, and I think this is normal in most sexual offence trials with a female victim.

TerfTerfTerf · 26/04/2020 11:19

Please look at Twitter and get this trending!

Dr Jesicca Taylor on R4 Woman's Hour today, discussing her new book "Why Women Are Blamed For Everything: Exploring Victim Blaming Of Women Subjected to Violence and Trauma"
Muttonindistress · 26/04/2020 13:30

Have just ordered the book. But how do you get something trending on Twitter? Do you just have to look at it - or do you have to comment?