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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Rory Stewart says 'male prisoners self-identified as females and raped prison staff'

120 replies

MrsSnippyPants · 10/04/2020 13:17

In this month's issue of GQ apparently. Is this true?!

twitter.com/RevStu/status/1248336587831808000?s=20

Rory Stewart says 'male prisoners self-identified as females and raped prison staff'
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HeyDuggeesCakeBadge · 10/04/2020 13:27

I've not heard of that? Perhaps he means Karen White and said staff instead of inmates?

Danceswithwarthogs · 10/04/2020 13:32

As prisons minister he may be party to all sorts that may not have been made public?

HorseRadishFemish · 10/04/2020 13:48

I think the allegation is very worrying and then the fact that we have not heard about it is very sinister.

RoyalCorgi · 10/04/2020 13:55

Agreed, it is very worrying indeed, if true. Is it possible he just got muddled? Because if not, then that is a massively serious allegation and one that needs to be investigated.

MrsSnippyPants · 10/04/2020 13:58

One would hope a former prisons minister would not get muddled. This is indeed very serious.

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TheProdigalKittensReturn · 10/04/2020 13:59

Given that we know that in at least one prison (the one in Scotland where staff complained to the union) female prison employees were being expected to search inmates identifying as female I wouldn't be surprised.

Danceswithwarthogs · 10/04/2020 14:02

Maybe just one of the ‘issues’ Rhona Hotchkiss spoke about

R0wantrees · 10/04/2020 14:14

Rory Stewart "The important thing is I think that the rights of women to feel safe trump the rights of someone who is biologically male to enter that space"

This ^^

Women & girls have the right to feel safe & be safe from males in prison and elsewhere where vulnerable.

In housing males in female prison estate, vulnerable women prisoners were put at risk of harm by the failure of the state to protect a single sex space & Safeguard.

Wiki: Rory Stewart
Minister of State for Prisons
In office
9 January 2018 – 1 May 2019

Callimanco · 10/04/2020 14:17

God I love Rory Stewart.
I can't believe the Stories voted in Bojo over him.

justdontatme · 10/04/2020 14:23

Rory Stewart actually really impresses me. Wish he was our PM.

MrsSnippyPants · 10/04/2020 14:29

Looking at GQ via the library app on my tablet, at the bottom it says 'The above interview has been edited for brevity. Read the full conversation on GQ.co.uk)

I have just checked and it doesn't seem to be online yet, still showing April's issue. Be interested to see if he expanded on that point.

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Callimanco · 10/04/2020 14:30

Tories. Not stories. Ffs.

GeordieTerf · 10/04/2020 14:40

If this is true, then some people have blood on their hands Sad

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 10/04/2020 14:50

If true, why and how has it been kept so quiet?

happydappy2 · 10/04/2020 16:44

It can't be true-can it?
Then again I couldn't believe male bodied prisoners were held in womens prisons so it might well be true.

TinselAngel · 10/04/2020 16:47

If anybody is in a position to know, it a Prison's Minister, surely?

OhHolyJesus · 10/04/2020 16:53

Dear Oh Holy,
In answer to your questions, yes I do believe a transwoman is a woman.
Best wishes
Rory

Rory Stewart MP
Penrith and The Border

From Aug 2019.

He must have changed his mind, or is it only sexual predators who self ID and are already in prison the ones that aren't TWAW?

StealthPolarBear · 10/04/2020 16:57

happydappy2 it can't be true. This stuff never happens. Ever.

Datun · 10/04/2020 19:21

In answer to your questions, yes I do believe a transwoman is a woman.

Eh?

How can you be 'instinctively worried' about male prisoners identifying as women, but still think they are women???

Honestly, this fucking nebulous definition of women that people think they can just trot out drives me nuts.

Fucking say it.

What's a woman in that case?!?

Lordfrontpaw · 10/04/2020 19:23

God I really want him to be mayor. I can’t stomach the current one. And we are stuck with him for longer now because of Covid-19 😭

zanahoria · 10/04/2020 20:33

so what was he doing about this when he was prisons minister?

Lordfrontpaw · 10/04/2020 20:33

I missed that Datun 😡

BusyProcrastinator · 10/04/2020 22:17

During his campaign for leadership, he was asked about trans issues and he waffled on about 'this is about listening and ...it's about love'.

i.e. will say any ambiguous shit when it suits him.

twitter.com/rorystewartuk/status/1138864629042597888?lang=en

scottishbride · 10/04/2020 22:22

I think as prisons minister he did open the first wing for transgender prisoners

TheCumbrian · 10/04/2020 22:30

People can change their minds. Lots of us started off trying to be nice and 'TWAW'.

You also have to remember that the replies you get to emails aren't often from the politicians themselves but from their staff.

However , as one of his former constituents (I usually post on FWR under another name but this is a bit outing) and in a professional capacity I have had to email him in the past about a number of different issues and his staff were very helpful and on the ball every time, but not once did he reply himself as per OhHolys email.

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