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The author of Labour's trans pledge tweets 'BYE BYE HONEY!' at Boris Johnson

135 replies

jadefinch · 07/04/2020 07:05

That's the trans pledge card that Labour's new deputy leader, Angela Rayner, and Labour's new shadow foreign secretary, Lisa Nandy, both signed.

The one that said women meeting to discuss women's rights is a hate crime.

'Floe Exotic', who is a transwoman, tweeted in block capitals 'BYE-BYE HONEY' to the news that Boris Johnson is now in intensive care.

The author of Labour's trans pledge tweets 'BYE BYE HONEY!' at Boris Johnson
The author of Labour's trans pledge tweets 'BYE BYE HONEY!' at Boris Johnson
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HermioneWeasley · 07/04/2020 11:09

Just about what I’d expect from the “women - be kind” brigade. Foul individual

RoyalCorgi · 07/04/2020 11:12

If Jeremy Corbyn had won in December and some Conservative aligned pledge generating 'activist' had tweeted this in response to him being seriously ill in ICU?

Then again, I've just seen someone on FB saying she hoped Boris Johnson had shaken hands with Corbyn recently. I also saw an old tweet from Julia Hartley-Brewer gloating about the death of Castro.

It just seems that there are a lot of nasty people about. I do find it slightly surprising that people want to advertise their nastiness on social media, though. It might be more politically expedient to at least pretend to be a nice person.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/04/2020 11:16

Horseradish

This is the organisation behind the pledge signed by Nandy etc. This person is a founder member.

https://twitter.com/Labour_Trans

nicky7654 · 07/04/2020 11:17

Glad I never ever voted Labour! Rather vote for Monster Loony Party!!

koshkatt · 07/04/2020 11:19

I think they know. I think that they don't care. It used to break my heart as a long time Labour voter (Blair years) but now I just look on with amazement and sadness.

Starmer needs to sort this out but Nandy and RLB in the Shadow cabinet does not fill me with hope tbh. I don't think he sees the problem at all.

koshkatt · 07/04/2020 11:20

(Whereas those around him do but care nothing for women)

koshkatt · 07/04/2020 11:21

Glad I never ever voted Labour! Rather vote for Monster Loony Party!!

Grin
BovaryX · 07/04/2020 11:25

Then again, I've just seen someone on FB saying she hoped Boris Johnson had shaken hands with Corbyn recently

Yes. There are alot of nasty people around. But most of them are not dictating pledges to and demanding policy capitulation from an allegedly serious political party. If this were a Conservative aligned tweeter, the media outrage would be sustained and relentless. Heads would roll and this person's political activist career would be in the gutter. But as it is? There will be zero upshot.

RoyalCorgi · 07/04/2020 11:40

Oh, indeed, BovaryX. The fact that Nandy, Rayner et al signed that pledge shows at best very questionable political judgement and at worst a willingness to ally themselves with people who are morally bankrupt.

BovaryX · 07/04/2020 11:52

I agree Royal. I am not in the UK, but I can't believe this is happening. This bloody virus. It's just awful.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 07/04/2020 12:07

It's like a truth serum in a way, just stand back and watch people show everyone exactly who they are.

CheeryTreeBlossom · 07/04/2020 12:10

www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-derbyshire-52198488

**A town mayor has apologised for saying Prime Minister Boris Johnson "completely deserves this" after he was admitted to intensive care.

Sheila Oakes, a Labour councillor and mayor of Heanor, in Derbyshire, made the comments below a Facebook post about the news.

Ms Oakes' local Labour party leader said he was "appalled" and said there would be an inquiry.**

Will be interesting to see if the tweeter has similar reaction from the party.

koshkatt · 07/04/2020 12:15

Whatever happened to the Left? Sad

HorseRadishFemish · 07/04/2020 12:22

Thank you Drudge and Eresh.

Michelleoftheresistance · 07/04/2020 12:26

This immature, ethic-free nastiness is now a well known trademark of this political lobby. Labour have a very brief window left before it becomes their trademark too.

This is self indulgent, attention seeking fun for people with personality disorders. The fun is to be found in both the letting loose with shocking behaviour, smashing all normal boundaries and expectations, and in the reaction, attention and outrage it garners. Supply. The pathology is all over it. Any sane political party should have the experience to spot this and then to get as far away from it as possible.

RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 07/04/2020 12:27

I would go so far as to say, uneducated, to dislike someone purely based on a difference of opinion

Oh for goodness sake

I am not a lefty...I don’t like or dislike Him based on a difference of opinion

Those exact same threads are full of ‘i like/love boris...i hope he gets well’

RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 07/04/2020 12:28

Oh and im sorry i fell for the derail

The point of the thread i thought was to discuss this individuals tweet and whether labour should step up and do something about it

Sexnotgender · 07/04/2020 12:30

What a sad little sack of shit.

How pathetic must your life be that you need to do that.

Dances · 07/04/2020 12:33

This person looks like Yaniv

Michelleoftheresistance · 07/04/2020 12:37

Really, this illustrates yet again the answer to a great deal of the MRA political lobby and to many other significant issues in society right now is to train nationally and widely about personality disorders, how to recognise and deal effectively with the behaviours associated which include grooming, coercion, boundary trampling, attention vaccuuming and manipulation, (all stuff well known on the relationships board), and then to look at how to adapt job interviews and assessments for competency to pick up those behaviours to prevent them being used by someone in a position of trust or public responsibility, (Jon Ronson's The Sociopath Test is quite interesting reading here) and to prevent them sucking up and derailing massive amounts of public servant time and money to no purpose other than immediate need-meeting experiences and acting out facilitation.

RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 07/04/2020 12:40

Oh and im sorry i fell for the derail

Apologies its not a derail, its just an opinion

i shouldn't feel the Need to ‘defend’ people

Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/04/2020 13:04

This is self indulgent, attention seeking fun for people with personality disorders. The fun is to be found in both the letting loose with shocking behaviour, smashing all normal boundaries and expectations, and in the reaction, attention and outrage it garners. Supply. The pathology is all over it.

This. It's transparent. And anyone who doesn't see it is pretty hard of thinking.

truthisarevolutionaryact · 07/04/2020 13:14

I'd be very surprised to see any condemnation of this by any senior Labour party officials. There is a complete reluctance to criticise any aspect of this ideology - no matter how twisted or dangerous. It's just "oh that person / group doesn't represent...." over and over again.

So they carry on with their ethics free vile commentary expecting only total compliance / obedience. I really hope I'm wrong but time will tell.

Kantastic · 07/04/2020 13:49

But Labour might use it against each other?

If I was a political rival of someone who had signed that Trans Pledge, I'd want to make sure that this doesn't slip by unnoticed. And anyone who thinks the TRAs in the party might be out to get them at some point should be using this opportunity to discredit that faction, and the way to do that is to make the well-known names who supported them very embarrassed they did so. I'd be amazed if this doesn't get some kind of coverage.

Am I more venal and self-serving than actual politicians? Surely not. Blush

Kantastic · 07/04/2020 13:51

I don't mean open condemnation, to be clear, more like getting friendly journalists to openly link this disgraceful behaviour to Nandy or Angela Rayner or whoever else signed it.