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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Meet Marvel's non-binary superhero Safespace and zir twin Snowflake

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zanahoria · 20/03/2020 09:08

Psychic Twins. “All twins are psychic, but we’re psychic-er.” Snowflake, a cryokinetic, can materialize snowflake-shaped shuriken projectiles for throwing. Safespace can materialize pink forcefields, but he can’t inhabit them himself, the reflex only works if he’s protecting others. They’re hyper aware of modern culture and optics, and they see their Super Heroics as “a post-ironic meditation on using violence to combat bullying.” They're probably streaming this.

"Snowflake and Safespace are the twins," the writer says, "and their names are very similar to Screentime; it's this idea that these are terms that get thrown around on the internet that they don't see as derogatory. [They] take those words and kind of wear them as badges of honor.

"Safespace is a big, burly, sort of stereotypical jock. He can create forcefields, but he can only trigger them if he's protecting somebody else. Snowflake is non-binary and goes by they/them, and has the power to generate individual crystalized snowflake-shaped shurikens. The connotations of the word 'snowflake' in our culture right now are something fragile, and this is a character who is turning it into something sharp.

"Snowflake is the person who has the more offensive power, and Safespace is the person who has the more defensive power. The idea is that they would mirror each other and complement each other."

www.marvel.com/amp/articles/comics/introducing-the-new-new-warriors

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zanahoria · 20/03/2020 09:09

linked from their site so you know I am not making this up

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DickKerrLadies · 20/03/2020 09:30

I know this has been a very long week but I'm fairly sure April Fool's Day is in a few weeks Hmm

JustTurtlesAllTheWayDown · 20/03/2020 09:31

I thought it was a joke! Apparently not. Oh dear. 😂
Wandering off to twitter now to take a look at the woke reaction...

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/03/2020 09:45

Grin seriously?

PenguindreamsofDraco · 20/03/2020 09:56

But from the drawings it's v obvious what sex they're both meant to be!

zanahoria · 20/03/2020 10:04

could be lady dick

or maybe Lady Dick will be their next superhero

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ErrolTheDragon · 20/03/2020 10:08

My new response to many things at the moment is 'don't be silly' - but it's kinda Marvel's thing so crack on.Grin

stillathing · 20/03/2020 12:41

So Snowflake, who is drawn as a very stereotypical comic book female, is the more powerful and can actually hurt. And Safespace only uses his power to help others. They are not white.

It's a shame because giving the power to the female and making the male caring would ordinarily be positive moves, as would having heroes with black skin. But I feel this is really soured by making one twin non binary and therefore linking to gender ideology.

Any criticism will be labelled "racism", in much the same way that trans activists appropriate the struggle for racial equality in their arguments about how males can become female.

Making the female more physically powerful just ties into the false belief that transwomen lose their physical advantage over women.

I wonder what kind of people the male, Safespace, likes to protect? I can guess very easily who he'd think were evil witches, undeserving of safety!

boatyardblues · 20/03/2020 12:51

When I saw the link & thought it would be satire. After a very long week in the upside down, I’m losing the ability to be either shocked or surprised by things.

LadyQuarantinaPluckington · 20/03/2020 12:56

Oh, fuck off Marvel.

You already reached your peak with Endgame anyway. I can live without you now.

WhereYouLeftIt · 20/03/2020 13:13

I read that page, and I honestly came away thinking - 'Marvel - you are taking the piss here. For real.'

The glitter types will take it at face value. 'Ooh, enby superheroes, about time.' But me? I cannot shake the impression that this is DRIPPING with sarcasm.

So - well done Marvel!

LynnSchmob · 20/03/2020 13:20

I saw this on Facebook and I genuinely thought it was a joke! I’m still not convinced it isn’t. Xx

Whatsnewpussyhat · 20/03/2020 14:26

WTF.

No Social Justice Warrior?

zanahoria · 20/03/2020 14:39

A quick google suggests that even woke types think it is a piss take.

I don't think Marvel really give a shit, they just float these ideas and if they do not work they move on to the next one or re-boot and old one

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GrumpyGran8 · 20/03/2020 14:52

or maybe Lady Dick will be their next superhero
The name would have to be Lady Dique! And her superpower would be that she can instantly transform into a glittering rainbow-coloured unicorn shooting lightning bolts from her massive horn! Grin

Mockerswithnoknockers · 20/03/2020 15:07

Transwoman Man

Able to self-identify at will to access any space.

koshkatt · 20/03/2020 15:32

I thought that this was a massive pisstake...is it not?

zanahoria · 20/03/2020 15:48

They will also be sending The Hulk on an anger management course and be having words with Spiderman about littering skyscrapers with his webs.

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GivesNoFox · 20/03/2020 16:02

I suspect they will have a bit of difficulty fighting super villains when their time is mostly taken up with the gargantuan task of correcting pronouns online.

Oh hang on! is misgendering their kryptonite?😂

Mockerswithnoknockers · 20/03/2020 16:06

Clark Kent protests to John Lewis over use of changing room of their choice.

HarrietThePi · 20/03/2020 16:08

This gave me a bit of a chuckle today.

www.dailystar.co.uk/showbiz/coronavirus-sam-smiths-having-quarantine-21723968

Sam, who previously asked people to refer to them as "they", took to their official Instagram account to share they "meltdown" with their 14.7million followers.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 20/03/2020 16:33

Daniel Kibblesmith used to write for Stephen Colbert. Wibble, on the whole.

Lordfrontpaw · 20/03/2020 17:08

It has to be a joke? What are their super powers? Gazing at their own belly buttons and centring the universe?

Freespeecher · 20/03/2020 17:58

Thing is, if they beat their enemies, they win (copyright Justin Trudeau).

MummBraTheEverLeaking · 20/03/2020 18:27

When i first saw this I honestly thought it was a pisstake Confused