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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

13 year old girl 'brainwashed' into thinking she's a boy

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BovaryX · 15/03/2020 06:25

There is an article in the Mail by a couple who allege that their daughter's school brainwashed the 13 year old during weekly sessions with the head of the school's LGBT group during which she became convinced she was a boy. She was also directed to a trans activist website featuring people showing their mastectomy scars and minimising the surgery. What on earth is going on in UK schools?

Ashleigh and Ged Barnett allege that until the one-to-one sessions began last September, their daughter appeared comfortable in her body and showed little interest in transgender issues.But they say she had changed completely by November, sporting a short haircut and talking about feeling that she was really a boy.

OP posts:
R0wantrees · 16/03/2020 14:29

(extracts from the article in OP

"They were confused by the transformation until they met her headteacher to discuss another matter and learned that their daughter had been having weekly sessions with the head of the school’s LGBT group.

‘The teaching assistant also pointed her in the direction of a YouTube website of a trans activist, which featured a video where they showed off their mastectomy scars and told how well the operation had gone.’

Mrs Barnett also claimed that the teaching assistant encouraged their daughter to change in a boy’s cubicle and that staff began using a male name for her.

She alleges the teaching assistant had no formal counselling qualifications"

'LGBT groups' in schools, like LGBT youth groups need to be reviewed to ensure that they are staffed by adults with appropriate levels of professional training, experience & Safeguarding knowledge.

Lordfrontpaw · 16/03/2020 14:31

It sounds like the teacher found a project for themself. Was the girl changing with the boys then? And no other teacher or member of stadd clocked this and reported it?

R0wantrees · 16/03/2020 14:42

Lordfrontpaw It was a TA who was leading.

Lordfrontpaw · 16/03/2020 14:47

for the love of the wee man!

R0wantrees · 16/03/2020 15:26

Eikon (quoted in Mail article) seem rather disingenous.

Their project iAmMe is pitched at Surrey schools:

"iAmMe – LGBT+
Eikon are trying to support all young people who identify LGBT+ in Surrey by providing a friendly, confidential and warming approach to the support provided to young people and their families.
At Eikon we understand the needs of the young people we are supporting, many experiencing isolation, bullying and ill mental health. We are working with schools, professionals and parents to ensure that we take a young person led approach to build equality throughout the county."

I dont know what a 'warming' support style is

Raising awareness in Surrey schools.
Why is LGBT + support important in schools?

“Nearly half (45 per cent) of LGBT pupils – including 64 per cent of trans pupils – are bullied for being LGBT in Britain’s schools”

The School Report (2017) and RaRE Research Report (2015)

Our aim is to motivate, encourage and offer comprehensive support to all schools, young people, and the families of those who identify as LGBTQ+ or who are questioning their gender, identity or sexuality.

Eikon is able to support staff to assist the young people in your school through:

A network of teachers and support staff termly meetings.
Comprehensive training
Support with policies, procedures and resources
Peer staff support
LGBT+ awareness sessions in the school. Lead by Eikon.
Setting up a LGBT+ safe space for your students.
Equip your school in Surrey with the relevant support, guidance and information offered to you by Eikon."

eikon.org.uk/our-services/iamme/

twitter.com/Eikon_iAmMe

Another children's charity with board of trustees apparently lacking key professional experience & knowledge:
eikon.org.uk/board-of-trustees/

Languishingfemale · 16/03/2020 19:35
Sad The closer you look at all this the more worrying it all becomes. Adults with no qualifications or experience in safeguarding, child psychology, child mental health etc being given access to schools and children with evidently no checks, balances or professional supervision. Just being part of a lobby group. And they are dabbling with the most intimate and powerful issues in a child's life - their identity - and allowed to alienate each child from their parents. And nobody is concerned?
HowDoesTheCow · 16/03/2020 19:57

The irony of this twitter.com/SurreyPolice/status/1239635082572423173?s=19 from Surrey Police - look at the parents one.

Lordfrontpaw · 16/03/2020 20:18

No comments yet (cracks fingers...)

MedusasButterDish · 17/03/2020 09:11

it sounds like a young (I assume) enthusiastic teacher has had some shiny training and gone out looking for kids to take under his wing.

To a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 20/03/2020 21:59

This is probably a very stupid question, but is this mostly a LEA thing, in state schools, or is it also rife in fee-paying schools where the parents could (and would!) vote with their cheque-books if they discovered this was being done to their thirteen-year-olds?

OhHolyJesus · 20/03/2020 22:09

It's rife everywhere. In some private schools I think it's worse, not that I have experience, just anecdotally the private schools appear to have more autonomy and links to corporates that have links to Stonewall.

I also used to think Catholic schools were your best bet as, stereotypically, they are steeped in religion and recognise the Mary being a woman, Jesus a man etc but I've heard of some classes focusing on bodies and being different ("being different is best") and it seems well-intentioned but badly handled in my view, of a particular Catholic school.

LEAs might refer you to OFSTED which is captured so it's a vicious circle as far as I can tell and each parent has to ask their school for the polices and lesson plans so to inform themselves and protect their own kids.

As this example shows, schools cannot be trusted.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 20/03/2020 22:13

Thanks. I was interested because I would have thought that kicking them in the wallet might work.

OhHolyJesus · 20/03/2020 22:40

Parents with cash could certainly try to sue, seeing as the education provided to their child is more like a service they pay for and some parents might find the teaching sub-standard if it wasn't based on biology and reality. Of course others would find it liberal and progressive!

I don't know what you do when you don't have a spare few thousand when it's state school. This school is a 'free school' so mostly independent of the LEA.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 21/03/2020 15:04

I was thinking more that not paying the fees would hurt the school if enough parents did it.

TheBewildernessisWeetabix · 21/03/2020 20:51

The alarming amount of coercive control unethical adults have been exercising over children in schools may finally be coming to light. I hope so.

lionheart · 25/03/2020 21:49

Just noticed this today.

13 year old girl 'brainwashed' into thinking she's a boy
Lordfrontpaw · 25/03/2020 23:03

Not sinister at all is it?

LadyQuarantinaPluckington · 26/03/2020 00:00

They're trying to make out it's no different to Childline having a similar exit button.

The lie of a non-Genderist parent being an 'abusive' parent is a big part of this. Challenge at every turn.

Lordfrontpaw · 26/03/2020 08:04

I’m not sure which is worse - this lot or the parents who splash their faces all over the newspaper because they have a ‘special child’. Both not exactly centring the child’s best interests I think.

ChiaraRimini · 27/03/2020 22:46

It's Munchausens by proxy in these adults isn't it? It makes them feel special that they have a "trans" child or pupil who "needs" intervention
And the kid ends up at best psychologically damaged, possibly sterile or with irreversible body changes/surgery

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 28/03/2020 15:07

And using up the time of professionals who would be better occupied helping children who have real and serious mental problems rather than ones exacerbated by parental misunderstanding (to put it kindly).

How many people here don't know a child whose parents have been fighting for months and years to get a diagnosis of a serious condition in, and appropriate treatment for, that child?

Lordfrontpaw · 28/03/2020 15:16

There’s no money in it I assume

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