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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Leicester renames Women's day

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BovaryX · 03/03/2020 06:01

The Times reports Leicester has renamed it Womxn at the behest of their new women's officer. As usual, objections to this are muted because students are frightened about retribution or punishment from the university.

Leicester students’ renaming of the celebration as International Womxn’s Day follows their election of a trans woman to the post of women’s officer. Dan Orr will represent the views of women on campus, speaking out about sexism and misogyny. A female student at Leicester University told The Times that she was “very upset” by the election but feared speaking out publicly in case she was disciplined by the university.

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GrumpyMiddleAgedWoman · 03/03/2020 06:04

But if course, it's not sexist or misogynist to silence women and prevent them from speaking about issues that concern them.

AuntieRae · 03/03/2020 06:18

I feel like I am in a constant state of pure rage about this stuff. There's one small step forward (great article from Suzanne Moore in the Guardian) and then 2 steps back. It never bloody ends

Furrybootsyecomfy · 03/03/2020 06:20

www.leicesterunion.com/news/article/6013/SU-Election-Results/
www.leicesterunion.com/elections/manifesto/7138/
So there’s a Trans and Non-Binary Officer, a LGBTQ+ Officer, and a Woman’s Officer who bases their manifesto on trans and NB people, but no Woman’s Officer for boring old “cis” women?
Riiiiiiiiight.

ChattyLion · 03/03/2020 06:58

This year we’ll muddle through with ‘Womxn’ but the root of that new word is still too T*RFy.. so by next year it will be ‘Femininity’ Day Glitterball [rainbow emoji] [fingernail-painting emoji]

BovaryX · 03/03/2020 07:16

This year we’ll muddle through with ‘Womxn’ but the root of that new word is still too T*RFy.. so by next year it will be ‘Femininity’ Day

It's a deliberate attack on language. It's an attempt to sever the relationship between words and external reality. To inverse, upend meaning and create an atmosphere of fear to silence any dissent.

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BringbackLang · 03/03/2020 07:24

It's completely insidious. I person with a clear and aggressive agenda knowingly trying to erase the word woman and being given the power to do so. Why is this person the woman's officer? It takes some brass neck for someone male born to assume they can speak on behalf of women.

GroggyLegs · 03/03/2020 07:30

I thought the x in Womxn stood for the second X Chromosome 😳 i.e. natal females.

WTF is it meant to represent then?

Lordfrontpaw · 03/03/2020 07:39

Look - they are dumb as mud. They don’t know about biology and all that science stuff.

Aren’t there any female students up there with the balls to stand up the them?

Lordfrontpaw · 03/03/2020 07:40

Sorry - after reading that back (they answer is yes they do and no they won’t, why would they?).

Ovaries, they need ovaries...

testing987654321 · 03/03/2020 07:44

The "x" makes it inclusive of trans women, non-binary women (not even sure what that means) and black women.

I always thought black women were simply women, but in this brave new world of men being women apparently they are more like the men.

Fucking sexist and racist if you ask me, not that anyone does.

Michelleoftheresistance · 03/03/2020 07:46

It's a land grab on woman. It's about a certain group of males who want woman for themselves and to dominate it, relegating actual females out of sight, out of mind and very definitely as a subhuman subclass.

But it's this kind of open and brazen batshit that does the best job in igniting rage and push back. This is now tipping in the public eye from a bit odd to damn stupid, and life is too short to indulge it.

Michelleoftheresistance · 03/03/2020 07:47

And spot the AGP.

ChattyLion · 03/03/2020 07:48

There’s an explainer here:
www.leicesterunion.com/voice/campaigns/current/internationalwomxnsweek/
Someone’s worked very hard to put together a full week of events which is lovely but there is a massive category error here because they are not about women, they are about anyone, therefore IWD has no women-only anything at all.
The week is also about ‘celebrating’ - so sexism must be totally finished in Leicester. Fantastic! How have they done this?

International Womxn's Week
International Womxn’s Week is a time to celebrate anyone, past and present, who identifies as a woman in society. It is recognised internationally as a day to celebrate the achievements of womxn and the impact they’ve had through their political, cultural, artistic and scientific work. Here at Leicester Students’ Union, we are continuing the celebration for a week and trying to ensure that the campaign is intersectional and inclusive, featuring events that represent anyone who identifies as a womxn. We use the term ‘womxn’ as a more inclusive spelling of ‘women’ that includes any person who identifies as a woman.

Michelleoftheresistance · 03/03/2020 07:50

Bollocks: that means 'We use 'womxn' to demonstrate that anything to do with females is primarily All About Men.'

Women aren't even allowed a name any more.

Lordfrontpaw · 03/03/2020 07:50

The fact that things are shifted around to expand the meaning of the word ‘woman’ says it all really.

GCAcademic · 03/03/2020 07:50

If transwomen are women, surely the term "womxn" is transphobic?

ChattyLion · 03/03/2020 07:50

Basically they spent the IWD budget on ‘Self ID Week.’

Lordfrontpaw · 03/03/2020 07:53

God they are going to have embarrassing student memories (all on social media). The worst I had was dodgy haircuts and drunken shenanigans.

BovaryX · 03/03/2020 07:54

International Womxn’s Week is a time to celebrate anyone, past and present, who identifies as a woman in society. We use the term ‘womxn’ as a more inclusive spelling of ‘women’ that includes any person who identifies as a woman

As Michelle says, this is an attempt to colonise not only language, but the history of women. He who controls the past, controls the present. Professor Selina Todd attracted the vitriol of activists because of her historical research conclusions. It is historical revisionism along with a deliberate attempt to redefine words and subvert their meaning.

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Kit19 · 03/03/2020 07:55

I shall be very interested to see how many of the 18-21 year old young men currently at uni identifying as women are still identifying as women in 10 years time. I would lay odds on less than 5%. Every photo I see a photo it’s someone obviously male with long hair and make up and maybe, but only maybe, a skirt.

Thats the thing that gives me the rage more than anything. This is just a game to them, those young men. They lose nothing by doing this, they only gain - they get to look woke and bluntly sleep with more girls who coo over their ‘bravery’. Whereas women lose everything- our right to define ourselves, our language, our spaces, our rights given away to Jami doing politics & sociology who in 10 years time will be a Married middle manager called Jamie who’ll look back on this time and laugh at the fun he had and then get on with his life

transdimensional · 03/03/2020 07:56

Some feminists have advocated the spelling "womyn" since the 70s. Apparently TRAs consider the spelling "womyn" to be "terfy", so they introduced the "more inclusive" and unpronounceable "womxn". And yet men don't become "mxn".

EverardDigby · 03/03/2020 07:59

We use the term ‘womxn’ as a more inclusive spelling of ‘women’ that includes any person who identifies as a woman

It doesn't include me as I don't identify as a woman, I am a woman, asked if assume my TERFy views weren't welcome.

Though when you go onto the Leicester Union site it identifies a woman called Nikki as women's officer, not Dan.

transdimensional · 03/03/2020 07:59

chattylion - by next year it will be ‘Femininity’ Day

Wouldn't that be an admission that their gender identity is all about gender (masculine/feminine) and not a genuine ability to alter or self-declare their biological sex (male/female)?

EverardDigby · 03/03/2020 08:02

Looks like Dan is standing for the post rather than elected, www.leicesterunion.com/elections/manifesto/7806/