Leicester renames Women's day

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The Times reports Leicester has renamed it Womxn at the behest of their new women's officer. As usual, objections to this are muted because students are frightened about retribution or punishment from the university.

Leicester students’ renaming of the celebration as International Womxn’s Day follows their election of a trans woman to the post of women’s officer. Dan Orr will represent the views of women on campus, speaking out about sexism and misogyny. A female student at Leicester University told The Times that she was “very upset” by the election but feared speaking out publicly in case she was disciplined by the university.

Correcting myself, they have been elected due next year www.leicesterunion.com/voice/elections/elections/

That 'womyn' is considered unacceptable (because that was women defining themselves as a group and removing the 'men' from their classification) demonstrates what this is all about. The word woman in their eyes should primarily mean men. Men are the most important women. Female people are of such total unimportance they should be obediently accepting their relegation out of sight and clapping their betters like sealions. Sexism, misogyny, male supremacism and narcissism all in one nice little word.

This community can't even bear for female people to have one day about them. Even that one single day in the year has to be taken and battered into centering males. That tells you all you need to know about the pathology involved here.

If trans women are women (not by opinion by the way) then why do they need womxn surely they are women?

transdimensional educate yourself. Biology is just a social construct.

Do furries say that actually, biologically they are dogs/foxes/cats etc? Just curious.

I've never seen the word "mxn" (for man)..I wonder why?

Would it upset the menz?

Do furries say that actually, biologically they are dogs/foxes/cats etc? Just curious.

There is that bloke who insists that he's a six year old girl. Never ages, oddly.

Oh that one. Canada isn’t it? What are the ‘adoptive parents’ thinking - and their actual little girl (although I’m sure I read that the 3 non children and are ‘very very close’)🤢 Don’t they have social services there?

These organisations are making themselves irrelevant. Just looked at their Twitter feed, they get almost no response to anything they post. This is a large Uni, a captive audience of over 20,000 students yet the Union gets 3 or 4 responses per post. Not even a like from every one that has been elected to an official post!

My DD has just finished 4 years at uni, she never joined up to the SU, despite coming from a lefty background. There are other organisations that give you a student card that were more relevant to her.

Remind me again, who is being literally erased?

Men are the most important women

That really sums up the entirety of the TRA argument as far as I can tell. Somehow the male women get listened to much more than boring old biological females. All the vast sums of money spent on pushing their agenda, all the regulatory capture. It's almost as if there were something very different about them compared to biological females who - as a class - have been largely ignored and denied any power throughout human history.

Ah yes, it's that they're MEN.

This all makes me so sad. Just when we thought we'd finally got it sorted and broken barriers, it all gets taken away. Thank fuck I'm old and no longer have to work outside the home. First of all I couldn't do the job I wanted to because women weren't allowed to, then that barrier was removed and women were allowed to (too late for me), now it's gone back to men being centred in all things again and women sidelined again. It's heartbreaking. I'm glad I don't have daughters.

There's another piece in the Times today - in the Scotland section - which is worth a read if only for some boggling quotes.

Thread here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3838009-Alex-Massie-in-the-Times-Scotland

If “woman” is merely an “umbrella term” there can be nothing particular or essential about being a woman. It is a term stripped of all meaning. I think it is reasonable for women to object to that and to worry that this cancellation might have unpleasant consequences. These go beyond questions of biological males being incarcerated in women’s prisons or taking part in women’s sporting events and cuts deep into how many women see themselves and experience their lives. If anyone can be a woman, just by saying so, is there anything distinctive about womanhood? That is not a small question

Quite so. The myriad inconsistencies and absurdities at the centre of identity politics on display. The idea that women are oppressed specificallybecause of their biological sex and its imperatives is made nonsensical if anyone can identify as a woman. This category is either exclusive. Or it is meaningless.

Feminism is nothing without women of colour, migrant, disabled, queer, trans, Black and sex working women

No Dan. Transwomen are a subset of men, not women. Womanhood is not something you can just have because you feel like it. It's a biological reality. All the other groups are actual women. Feminism does however include transmen, who are born women.

The renaming, the non-female women's officer, the female students who parent speak up. Deeply depressing.

*daren't not parent. My phone refuses to believe there is such a word.

'Womxn' to me is a sign that I, as a feminist woman who rejects gender stereotypes and gender essentialism, am not welcome.

Women can't have anything for ourselves.

What frustrates me the most is that most of these student organisations are very aware of trans issues. They have LGBT officers and separate Trans officers to advocate for those specific groups - but the Women's officer still has to prioritise those most-oppressed of 'women': those born male.

Labour Students is another good example. You may recognise the Women's officer, who demonstrates said officer's priorities by holding up a 'Trans Rights' placard in the photograph.

What about women's rights? Why don't we matter?

Eh. the desperately woke and dick panderers might speak over me but they don't speak for me.

Aren’t there any female students up there with the balls to stand up the them?

And decent men too, fuck me there must be some people with enough power to speak up and be listened to.

How does a person like this get into that position, they aren't even trying and still use a man's name.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8068879/Leicester-University-students-union-faces-backlash-rebranding-International-Womens-Day.html

Dan Orr is wearing an 'Abolish Prisons' t-shirt in the Daily Mail photo. Without the article for context, I would not know that Dan identifies as a transwoman.

What does Dan think we should do about murderers, paedophiles and rapists? Tell them off a bit and send them on their way?

I'm wondering about the overlap between the 'abolish prisons' lot and those who would like to see GC women confined to re-educational gulags. I'm sure there's at least some.

Because there are always women who will give in to a male. Males are - generally - more aggressive, take-chargey and vocal, you could even say more natural leaders. They've also had a lifetime of people listening to them more than females.

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One has to be a certain kind of clueless to be wearing a t shirt which demands 'abolish prisons' at a time when violence against women is at a 10 year high.....

Dan is how old? How long have they been saying they are a woman? In what way is this the case? Who died and made Danself spokesperson for women? Will they speak up for period poverty, rape victims and sexual harassment - or will it all be about trans issues.

Why isn't there a Trans Officer? Surely they ould be uniquely qualified to speak on trans issues - can you imagine if a woman demanded to be Trans Officer?