In court tomorrow

[BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted]

Hayden versus Associated Newspapers.

The Judge? Go on guess. Mr Justice Julian Knowles.

Remember him? I couldn’t be happier.

This is according to contacts at the NZ fruit farm

I have a theory that whenever a FWR post reaches the top 5 active threads, it’s because it’s getting direct hits from outside of Mumsnet.
Someone is sharing the link. I first noticed it (and took screen shots, I was that surprised!) during the Miranda Yardley court case.

(the internal algorithm has been manipulated to prevent us being listed in active, because users prefer to deliberately seek out the feminist stuff, we are a bit niche for most of the AIBU/Chat/Style and Beauty regulars 😂)

The essay by Stephanie R. Hayden published Saturday, 18 August 2018 on Judicial Cat blog was responded to by Julian Norman (Barrister DryStone Chambers.)

Wednesday, 22 August 2018 Stephanie Hayden,
"Following the publication of the essay by Stephanie Hayden entitled 'Gender Recognition Certificates Why the Feminists and the Trans Rights Activists Have got it Wrong' immigration barrister Julian Norman of Drystone Chambers (@ Julian_Norman1) responded with her own excellent contribution to the debate:
judicialcat.blogspot.com/2018/08/is-everyone-really-wrong-julian-norman.html

About
Julian has specialised in immigration law since 2002. After ten years working in private practice, initially as a paralegal and then qualifying as a solicitor in 2007, she was called to the Bar in 2012.

After being called to the Bar she has continued to build a practice in immigration and also extradition and regulatory work. She is registered to undertake Direct Access work and she is also a qualified mediator.

In 2020 the Legal 500 directory recommends Julian, stating "She has an impressive legal mind and is an ardent defender of justice who can always be distinguished from the crowd".
drystone.com/barristers/julian_norman/

'Has Everyone REALLY Got It Wrong?

This is a response to Stephanie Hayden’s essay, Gender Recognition Certificates: Why the Feminists and the Trans Rights Activists Have got it Wrong. It’s not intended as a rebuttal but more as a collaborative approach to understanding the law in what is a hugely misunderstood and almost entirely unlitigated area of law, the scope of the Equality Act 2010 (“EqA”) in particular the single sex exemptions and the proposed reforms of the Gender Recognition Act 2004 (“GRA”). continues

docs.google.com/document/d/1b7viOWsx-Wgw344fujX3QddaJN8d4JKJoaVhyzMz1so/edit

But I often see FWR threads in Active, that's how I get on here mostly.

Curiouser and curiouser.

I'd love to understand more about the law. Because this pantomime makes no fucking sense to me at all.

DuLang, i'm still not sure how that screenshot could relate to Haydens GRC? Because it involves a false statutory declaration. Not an assertion that you have a GRC when you don't.

To be fair nothing makes actual sense in trans world.

Sorry, I don’t mean Active, we’re always in Active, I mean, front page of the website, ‘Trending Now’ box.

We maybe get in there around once a fortnight? Totally unscientific figure!

Is a judge 'rescuing themselves' a legal term? I am taking it to mean the judge volunteering to stand down from hearing the case due to some sort of conflict?

Ah yes sorry the Trending threads I never look at.

Yes Rainbows if a judge recuses herself it means she steps down from hearing that case, because of a conflict of interest, or similar

Is Hayden under the impression they are a public figure 😂

In awaiting Hayden's statement on this morning's events with bated breath - they are usually so fast to tweet out statements.

The allegation made (by the second journalist?) is that Hayden’s GRC was obtained unlawfully via a fraudulent statutory declaration.

If the allegation is correct then the GRC is invalid and should be revoked.

Whether a GRC has ever been revoked before, who can say?

There is inbuilt secrecy, so if no one is allowed to know that a GRC exists, how could anyone ever figure out that a fraudulent one exists?

That’s a rhetorical question, of course, if the fraudulent GRC holder was silly enough to put all the evidence online, a journalist could just follow the trail of genderbreadcrumbs.

Ooooh, that’s interesting! Thank you.

Recusal is pretty rare. It can be requested where a judge has a conflict of some kind. For example if one of the Supreme Court judges hearing the Brexit cases had been seen on the protest marches waving a European flag or (ha ha) walking around town wearing a Free Tommy Robinson t shirt.

I've been a litigation lawyer for over 20 years and have only seen a judge recuse himself once.

Is Hayden under the impression they are a public figure

Judicial Cat blog:
essay by Stephanie R Hayden
Leeds, United Kingdom
18 August 2018
"About the Author

"Stephanie is a male to female transgender person holding a Gender Recognition Certificate. She is a Bachelor of Laws and has been in legal professional practice since 2008. Stephanie practices in employment law and regularly appears in the Employment Tribunal. In 2012 she was granted a special right of audience in the High Court to represent a defendant in the case of Hardy v Jones & Others. Stephanie has appeared on BBC News in her previous legal gender to discuss the Royal Bank of Scotland computer crash of 2012 and regularly makes contributions on radio. She has written for both the London Evening Standard and the Daily Star."

judicialcat.blogspot.com/2018/08/gender-recognition-certificates-why.html

Since that essay was penned, Hayden was briefly interviewed on RT
22 Feb 2019
'Stephanie Hayden for RT International'

What's FT?

The allegation made (by the second journalist?) is that Hayden’s GRC was obtained unlawfully via a fraudulent statutory declaration.

If the allegation is correct then the GRC is invalid and should be revoked.

Hayden demonstrated familiarity with the requirements to obtain a GRC in Stephanie R. Hayden's essay published 18 August 2018:

'Gender Recognition Certificates: Why the Feminists and the Trans Rights Activists Have got it Wrong'

(extract)
"To obtain a “GRC” one must be at least 18[8]and apply to a panel. The applicant needs to prove that they have or have had gender dysphoria, has lived in their acquired gender for at least two years at the date of their application, intends to live in their acquired gender until death, and complies with the evidential requirements[9]. The evidential requirements can be summarised as requiring one to produce evidence in the form of two medical reports confirming diagnosis of gender dysphoria (one of which must be from a medical practitioner practising in the field of gender dysphoria). The reports must give details of any surgical or other medical treatment performed for the purpose of modifying sexual characteristics. Evidence must also include a collection of documents proving the applicant has lived in their acquired gender for a minimum of two years, and a statutory declaration that the applicant intends to live in their acquired gender for life" (continues)
judicialcat.blogspot.com/2018/08/gender-recognition-certificates-why.html

There is inbuilt secrecy, so if no one is allowed to know that a GRC exists, how could anyone ever figure out that a fraudulent one exists?

Hayden chose to disclose possession of a GRC on Hayden's Judicial Cat blog which includes a live link to the author's twitter account 'flyinglawyer73'

"Stephanie R Hayden
Leeds, United Kingdom
18 August 2018
About the Author

Stephanie is a male to female transgender person holding a Gender Recognition Certificate. She is a Bachelor of Laws and has been in legal professional practice since 2008. Stephanie practices in employment law and regularly appears in the Employment Tribunal." (continues)
judicialcat.blogspot.com/2018/08/gender-recognition-certificates-why.html

That’s a rhetorical question, of course, if the fraudulent GRC holder was silly enough to put all the evidence online, a journalist could just follow the trail of genderbreadcrumbs.

I see. That might be interesting.

I was in the law workshop with Julian at wpuk conference and I was blown away by her!