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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Momentum

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earlydoors42 · 28/01/2020 19:27

Someone from Momentum just rang me to ask if I will be voting for Rebecca Long Bailey in the leadership elections. I said I am unsure as I disagree with her stance on self-ID - she has said that transwomen are women and she is pro self-ID.

The person on the phone then told me she agrees with RLB, she has many trans friends, they should he allowed to be their true selves, and sounded shocked and said it was incredibly unlikely this would be abused. She hadn't heard of AGP and clearly thought I was old and bigoted - she thought I was talking about non-binary. She was then offended when I asked her if she was very young (she was).

Not the best unsolicited phone call to receive! She did tell me that RLB is pro abortion - I had been under the impression that her religion meant she was against them (unsure of details or where I read it though). I hope that is true.

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Freespeecher · 28/01/2020 19:34

Did they send you one of those ballots that only had her name on?

earlydoors42 · 28/01/2020 19:36

Ha ha ha no I haven't seen that!

I thought it was one of those recordings phoning me about an accident at first and was surprised it was a real person!

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HavelockVetinari · 28/01/2020 19:39

Cheeky fecker, well done for doing your bit towards educating her on how her own rights will be stripped away under self-ID. Ooh, I hope they ring me! I'm going to use the 'break it down for me' thread as ammo and be calm, reasonable and full of statistics.

Datun · 28/01/2020 19:44

She hadn't heard of AGP and clearly thought I was old and bigoted

Seriously. How can people still not know about this? Where the fuck do they think all the transvestites have gone??

earlydoors42 · 28/01/2020 20:33

I was totally unprepared and just trying to discuss off the top of my head. While slightly annoyed she had phoned while I was watching Emmerdale!

Yes when I talked about what used to be called transvestites and cross-dressers using female spaces, that's when she tried to explain non-binary to me, "people who are neither female nor male"...! Zero clue.

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Childrenofthestones · 28/01/2020 20:42

Anyone who lived through Derrick Hatton and Militant Tendency in Liverpool in the 80s will recognise this. They're two cheeks of the same arse.

DesireesChild · 28/01/2020 22:04

Anyone who lived through Derrick Hatton and Militant Tendency in Liverpool in the 80s will recognise this. They're two cheeks of the same arse

Fortunately wasn't in Liverpool but I remember Derek Hatton and Militant Tendency. Vile people.

The fact Momemtum might not be gender critical is neither here nor there as to how loathsome they are.

snowblight · 28/01/2020 22:07

Whatever her views on trans issues, I wouldn't vote for anyone so closely associated with Corbyn.

RuffleCrow · 28/01/2020 22:11

Gosh they're dim. Meanwhile the Tories are feigning luke warm support for women's sexed based protections whilst sitting back and letting the police, Stonewall and the CPS simply make "the law" up, off the top of their heads then go around enforcing it in schools, prisons, hospitals and anywhere else women and children might be particularly vulnerable.

The tail is truly wagging the gender-nonconforming dog now. Fuckers.

FamilyOfAliens · 28/01/2020 22:15

She did tell me that RLB is pro abortion

It’s pro-choice, surely?

Cwenthryth · 28/01/2020 22:37

Have you had anything to do with Momentum or are they just calling all/random party members? Wonder how they’re targetting.

earlydoors42 · 29/01/2020 07:30

Yes - pro choice - but the Momentum girl said repeatedly she is pro abortion!

I am not sure why Momentum rang me, I used to get texts from them last year too, so I must be on a list. I left the Labour Party over self ID a while ago but rejoined at Christmas.

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