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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Feel like I'm shouting into a void.

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HerRoyalFattyness · 27/01/2020 19:14

Or ended up in a parallel universe.

Trying to explain why self ID is an issue and I'm getting called a terf and told that my rape is my problem to deal with.

So basically, don't be scared of men, shut up and deal with it little woman.

Patriarchy at its finest. Yet I'm the one being told I'm not a feminist. Hmm

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Lordfrontpaw · 29/01/2020 13:26

My son is absolutely singing off the same hymn sheet, despite the best efforts of the school in allowing some of the more irritating people spouting nonsense being invited in to talk to the pupils. Protocol says that they aren't allowed to interrupt or heckle - I would have a stroke! The teacher in charge of booking the 'turns' must wonder why I give him daggars every time I see him.

Unless it's a strategy to allow speakers to give themselves enough rope...

Lordfrontpaw · 29/01/2020 13:31

And another thing... I was listening to the radio yesterday (R4 Rosenthals show) and they were discussing the language used on the NHS website and how/why it is changed so that people understand what is being said.

Now please bear in mind that some NHS literature has been neglecting to use the word 'women' (as in 'uterus havers') and the woman yesterday had the cheek to say that since the average reading age in the UK is 9 (yes, 9 years old, not even Year 9) and some readers have English as a foreign language, they need to make language very simple.

Whaaaaat?

HerRoyalFattyness · 29/01/2020 13:40

What the fuck? ConfusedHmm

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Lordfrontpaw · 29/01/2020 13:54

Was that me being garbled? sorry - I was rather irritated!

So they check the language used on the NHS website so that it is easy to understand (so now uses words like pee and poo) as they are aiming at the reading age of a 9-year-old and trying to make it accessible to non-natiove English speakers.

Now, have the NHS been circulating items with euphemistic works for 'women' that even native speakers with an adult reading age find bloody confusing?

Average reading age of 9?? I can't believe that. I mentioned it to DH but he (smarty pants) knew that.

NotTheLangCleg · 29/01/2020 14:08

"bathrooms are public gathering spaces" - gosh that former friend of your is the Brain of Britain, eh?

Parks are public gathering places. Bathrooms, surely, are places with private facilities in which to deal with human biological functions.

Lordfrontpaw · 29/01/2020 14:15

I've never been to a public gathering in a loo yet. I've been at gatherings at venues that have a loo but never had a meeting in one.

HerRoyalFattyness · 29/01/2020 14:45

No the what the fuck was the average reading age of 9! That's shocking. We need to do more to address that.

I can't say I've ever had a gathering in a loo either.

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Lordfrontpaw · 29/01/2020 14:50

yes, 9! And The Sun pitches it at 8!! Grin

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 29/01/2020 15:43

If anyone were to invite you to a gathering in a loo you'd probably steer clear TBF Grin Or actually still be age 9!

wellbehavedwomen · 30/01/2020 14:01

@tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz

That stat ... did I read correctly that it was based on 27 people? So a very thorough and far reaching study?

Not only that; it was based upon a self-selecting survey, with a prize draw as a carrot, with a warning that if you completed it more than once you wouldn't get two entries. No other protection against people doing just that, using different emails. And the vast bulk of the responses weren't from young trans people at all. Yet it's now used as a solid statistic in all manner of serious reports. A bit like the rape statistic, which conflates lesbians and transwomen and then says the statistical risk of lesbians is that of trans.

And we have around 600 suicides a year in the UK. It's a terrible loss in every case, but in a population of 62,000,000, I don't think that's an epidemic.

When people say 47% of trans people kill themselves, they have to believe that even if nobody who isn't trans ever does, there are still only 1200 trans people in the country. It's just stupidity writ large.

It's also a recognised fact that telling teenagers they are at additional risk of suicide increases their risk, whether originally true or not. How awfully responsible. GIDS stress that it's wholly untrue and they see the levels they'd expect given the other factors. They said it is harmful to the reslience of the children they see to make that claim, which they do not recognise as correct.

The bullshit spouted in support of these sweeping legal changes - changes that have huge impact on women's rights, freedoms and provision - is just extraordinary. If the case is so compelling, then why the need to lie?

HerRoyalFattyness · 30/01/2020 14:34

made up statistics used to make people feel sorry for trans people.
Translate that to
Men come up with a load of bollocks to keep women oppressed

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