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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lang Cleg 3

172 replies

ButterisbestLangClegisbetter · 25/01/2020 00:07

Can you codify belief into law? Will you mandate that people can transition from one sex to the other and must be treated accordingly? That children who fail to conform to sex role stereotypes are to be taught they were born in the wrong body & will be treated with drugs and surgery? How will you punish the non believers? The heretics
This is the 1000 post by the Bewildernessis Weetabix on Lang Cleg 2
I'm sure that this needs to be repeated

OP posts:
R0wantrees · 31/01/2020 13:26

ahagwearsapointybonnet
Sarah Champion MP writing in the Times this week:
'Children need protecting in all settings, not just at school'
(extract)
"If you leave your child in the care of an adult professional, you would assume that the law would apply evenly if they failed in their duty to safeguard. However, due to a legal loophole, as the law currently stands it is illegal for a teacher — but not a faith leader or sports coach — to engage in sexual activity with a 16 or 17-year-old under their supervision.

As chairwoman of the all-party parliamentary group (APPG) on safeguarding in faith settings, I am publishing a report that calls on the government to extend the definition of a ‘position of trust’ to cover any adult regularly involved in caring for, training or supervising a child.

Evidence submitted to the APPG’s inquiry into ‘positions of trust’ found current legislation to be inadequate for protecting young people from adults who would groom and abuse them.

The scale of the problem is hard to determine, due in part to the legality of the act itself, but figures previously obtained by the NSPCC from local authorities showed that between 2014 and 2018, over 650 complaints were made about adults in professions not covered by the existing position of trust law having sex with children in their care.

The APPG’s inquiry found that adults holding positions in faith organisations are perceived as having authority, power and influence within their communities — and the opportunities to abuse that power are significant as a result. Furthermore, we heard that many people feel a sense of powerlessness that can exacerbate the power dynamic in relationships, making it hard to speak up about concerns." (continues)
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/children-need-protecting-in-all-settings-not-just-at-school-7wdmfj6kk

this loophole with regards sexual consent& 'Positions ofTrust' also applies to adults running many youth groups, choirs, drama groups etc see www.emmottsnell.co.uk/blog/sexual-consent-and-positions-of-trust

BlackeyedSusan · 02/02/2020 01:23

As stated on the radio, if the adult is the one who is in charge of saying who is allowed to go to camp or trip etc...

We miss you Lang.

HouseMouseQueen1969 · 03/02/2020 22:39

Just because someone was a regular poster doesn't mean that they weren't AGP's on a mission. I'm sure there's a lot of 'regular posters' that are AGP's monitoring this site.

That's all I have to say. Back to Spinster.

GirlDownUnder · 06/02/2020 10:30

UPDATE

I've had a final response from MN:

We're afraid that we won't be reinstating LangCleg's account.
Best,
MNHQ

I'm not going to challenge, as I know they've read all the threads, and we can't assume that this isn't Langs choice 

2BthatUnnoticed · 09/04/2020 08:15

Seemed timely to bump this

2BthatUnnoticed · 09/04/2020 08:17

@GirlDownUnder are you still around? I know a few people wandered away after the angst but not sure who

HorseRadishFemish · 09/04/2020 09:09

I miss Lang.

langclegflavoredbananamush · 09/04/2020 09:28

Yes, a timely bump. Makes me so angry that Mumsnet would do this. If it weren't for this sort of thing I would have been happy to subscribe.

OhHolyJesus · 09/04/2020 09:48

Same here, although I am broke because of Covid so not sure now is the right time, but another reason not to subscribe is because of Lang's ban and all those who went before her. I'm not paying for my speech to be coerced. Even if I had that at work at least I would be getting paid.

I hope Lang is ok.

littlbrowndog · 09/04/2020 09:48

I miss her so much. I didn’t even know her in real life but I still miss her

TinselAngel · 09/04/2020 10:40

I miss her input with our current ploppers.

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 09/04/2020 12:18

Yeah I’d subscribe to Lang...but not MN

WrathofFaeKIopp · 09/04/2020 12:24

LangNet

PertEllaTitsahoy · 09/04/2020 12:32

Do eet! Theres a gap in the market coming up soon after all 😏

Al1Langdownthecleghole · 09/04/2020 15:23

I'm really missing Lang. I don't know if a lot of other posters walked in protest, but FWR, as in proper FWR and not the youre-doing-it-all-wrong-you-witches ploppers has felt quieter of late.

DuLANGDuLANGDuLANG · 09/04/2020 19:26

If MN hadn’t kicked LangCleg out, I probably would’ve paid the year subscription fee.

As they did, I won’t.

WeetabixBananaHipsterFFS · 11/04/2020 09:18

Yeah, I miss Lang and her diabolical breakfast choices.

TheBewildernessisWeetabix · 11/04/2020 22:19

I am always confused by the admin team's claim that a troll who has been harassing women on FWR for a very long time means that they are not a troll. It just means they are a successful troll.

Langbannedforsafeguardingkids · 11/04/2020 23:31

Yes I miss Lang too and I'd subscribe to Langnet.

Mner2000 · 12/04/2020 00:00

Langnet would be awesome

2BthatUnnoticed · 12/04/2020 23:46

If does feel quieter to me.. quite a few seem to be gone.

Langbannedforsafeguardingkids · 14/04/2020 17:29

I'm really missing Lang. I don't know if a lot of other posters walked in protest, but FWR, as in proper FWR and not the youre-doing-it-all-wrong-you-witches ploppers has felt quieter of late.

Agreed. Think it's a combination of things. People were disillusioned I think when Lang - so clearly all about safeguarding of children and so fair and clear - was banned. When someone who is so obviously on the side of protecting children and women gets banned for basically calling out people who's main aim is the opposite well, what's the point?

I'm also not posting so frequently here because there are too many MRAs/TRAs (can't tell the difference personally) and being an actual real woman with children who now don't go to school and a key worker husband I really don't have the time for misogynists.

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