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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

@JustineMumsnet please consider reinstating LangCleg after a temporary suspension. It would help so many of us. Mumsnetters please sign!

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loveyouradvice · 23/01/2020 15:35

@JustineMumsnet

We the undersigned would like to ask you to consider reinstating LangCleg after a temporary suspension, as you have done with others.

Or perhaps, consider reinstating her for a three-month trial period and then reviewing.

We know you will have realised, from the two other LangCleg threads, how much her wisdom and constant voice in support of robust safeguarding is welcomed by so many on this board. It is truly a great loss to us, and to the depth of discussion about such important matters.

We hope Justine that you might do two things:

  • Review what actually happened with LangCleg and decide whether it really was so dire that she deserves permanent expulsion, or whether perhaps there was an element of misunderstanding on your moderators' part (which Michaeel's post indicates may have happened) and, that perhaps she was being held to an inappropriately high standard compared to others
  • Review the process, so that strong voices on here are able to continue to be heard for the benefit of all Mumsnet users

Or perhaps do neither of those things, and just reinstate her because you recognise how important your other Mumsnet users find her.... I guess the equivalent of a Royal Pardon,

Please hear our voice.

And everyone on here, please do sign if you want LangCleg back - just that, a signature with any discussion continuing on the LangCleg 2 thread. A signature to say you want her back and hope that @JustineMumsnet will consider this.

Thank you - both my fellow mums netters and Justine

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BettyFloop · 25/01/2020 03:11

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Jargoyle · 25/01/2020 03:16

I don't think you can insist that mumsnet take sides though tbh. Many women aren't GC, even if it seems logical than single sex provisions should be retained.

Jargoyle · 25/01/2020 03:19

I think the principle issue is how trans has become a trend, not the existence of trans individuals themselves. And sadly many teens are only more attracted to something if the older generation/parents rail against it.

DesireesChild · 25/01/2020 03:41

For the rest of us: it would be really, really useful to knowexactlywhatruleLang broke

Wasn't there an MNHQ post that she was so rude and aggressive towards staff that it came to a point that staff didn't want to deal with her?

I can't say that beyond the current kerfuffle where her name is on several threads that she made any impression on me.

TheBewildernessisWeetabix · 25/01/2020 03:57

The only acceptable position for a parenting website to have is in favor of Safeguarding.
They should neither respect, nor require posters to respect, the opinions of those who oppose Safeguarding.

Jargoyle · 25/01/2020 04:08

The only acceptable position for a parenting website to have is in favor of Safeguarding.

But you're trying to make the assertion that those who don't agree with you are opposed to safeguarding, which is a bit like how TRAs assert that a lesbian not wanting to sleep with a transwomen is transphobic.

nachthexe · 25/01/2020 04:11

@mabelcloth is that where the ‘sainsbury’s, for example....’ thread titles came from?
Anyhoo, signed.
When Oxford University provides a female history lecturer with two male security guards for every lecture she gives, it becomes obvious that there are very real attempts to quite literally silence GC women.
You are playing into the hands of those that would do us, and more importantly children, harm, mnhq.
Shame on you.

nachthexe · 25/01/2020 04:13

But I’m glad your moderators feel ‘safe’ from the dangerous literal violence of a typing voice advocating for safeguarding.

NotBadConsidering · 25/01/2020 05:11

Jargoyle

If you have an issue, or wants to start a petition to keep Lang banned, then start your own thread. Don’t hijack this one. This one is a petition on a single issue. It’s not for debate.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 25/01/2020 08:41

Indeed. "Not signed" would be a reasonable response. Multiple posts waffling on about why precisely you don't like Lang is not.

PersonFrom2045 · 25/01/2020 08:56

Not signed.

I see no reason not to accept at face value what has been said about the impact of LC's posts on the moderators, and MN as employers have a duty of care to their staff.

OneEpisode · 25/01/2020 08:56

So, I will just:
Signed

LangSpartacusCleg · 25/01/2020 09:01

From the OP - sign if you want LangCleg back - just that, a signature with any discussion continuing on the LangCleg 2 thread

From me - Link to the latest Banbury thread

Signed

MilesJuppIsMyBitch · 25/01/2020 09:16

Signed

nythbran2 · 25/01/2020 10:09

Signed

DickKerrLadies · 25/01/2020 10:12

Signed

BlytheByName · 25/01/2020 10:52

Signed.

ruby2020 · 25/01/2020 11:13

Not signed

Patnotpending · 25/01/2020 11:53

Signed

MistOnTheWater · 25/01/2020 12:02

I'm just a lurker - though I've posted twice since Langs ban I'm that angry about it. I loved reading Langs posts. Anyway - signed.

GenderfreeLang · 25/01/2020 12:03

Me too please.

PantTwizzler · 25/01/2020 12:08

Signed.

pollyputthepastaon · 25/01/2020 12:10

signing!

amiw · 25/01/2020 12:19

Me too

snowblight · 25/01/2020 12:54

I’m glad your moderators feel ‘safe’ from the dangerous literal violence of a typing voice

I'm sure you won't be complaining if you're ever subject to abusive behaviour and treated with contempt at work then?

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