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PLEASE tell me you're all reading Invisible Women?!

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WyeWoman · 22/01/2020 17:56

I keep speaking to people about this amazing book by Caroline Criado Perez called Invisible Women! It is soooo bloody amazing!!
Link here: www.penguin.co.uk/books/111/1113605/invisible-women/9781784741723.html

I need to discuss this with people. This woman is brilliant.

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KittenKong · 05/10/2021 17:09

85p? Bargain! I have the hard copy but have been recommending it lots...

MildredsMoustache · 07/10/2021 08:50

I'm a few chapters in.

I'd be genuinely interested to know how much of it is also relevant to trans women. I'm sure some of it is, but we're unlikely to ever really know. If we can't manage to gather stats about half the world's population properly, what are the chances of consistent meaningful recording of gender/trans status on top of that?!

KittenKong · 07/10/2021 08:54

It’s about women.

Shedbuilder · 07/10/2021 09:01

@MildredsMoustache

I'm a few chapters in.

I'd be genuinely interested to know how much of it is also relevant to trans women. I'm sure some of it is, but we're unlikely to ever really know. If we can't manage to gather stats about half the world's population properly, what are the chances of consistent meaningful recording of gender/trans status on top of that?!

None of it is relevant to transwomen because transwomen are men. The world is already designed around men. This book is about the effect of that on women.
KittenKong · 07/10/2021 09:10

I suppose that comment reinforces the whole premis of the book!

MildredsMoustache · 07/10/2021 09:11

Yes absolutely to both! I was more musing in response to this earlier in the thread:

CCP, even while cataloging women’s sex-based oppression in minute and exhaustive detail, can’t afford to discuss gender identity and keep her audience. Her book has already been cancelled by some women studies departments / book clubs for being trans exclusionary (she says in the prologue that while trans women are women that this book is about the material ways in which being female impacts women - not good enough apparently).

What do the TRAs want?! Are we literally not allowed to discuss sex based oppression where it's relevant?

So far most of what I've read would be completely irrelevant to trans women (but would presumably be relevant to trans men/non-binary females).

Shedbuilder · 07/10/2021 09:11

It will, of course, be relevant to so-called transmen, who are women, of course.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 29/10/2022 06:44

www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-62877930

AlecTrevelyan006 · 29/10/2022 06:45

The crash test dummies designed for women drivers

BaileySharp · 29/10/2022 23:06

Yes I've read it! It's a great book though it did make me quite angry! I think everyone should read it

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