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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

What's the craic with Owen Jones today then?

45 replies

CallofDoodee · 12/01/2020 20:56

I can't make head nor tail of it or a lot of his twitter feed today. Something about Emma Burnell (I don't know who she is?), who retweeted something from Karen Ingala Smith? And is now accusing OJ of being a bully. Or is that a different spat?

Can anyone shed any light?!

What's the craic with Owen Jones today then?
What's the craic with Owen Jones today then?
What's the craic with Owen Jones today then?
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Goosefoot · 12/01/2020 21:10

It sounds like someone took umbrage because he liked or followed someone who once said something unacceptable.

EwwSprouts · 12/01/2020 21:42

Emma is another left-leaning journalist.
She RT back in the summer. twitter.com/EmmaBurnell_/status/1216344620956823554
She says he caused a pile on & is a bully. twitter.com/EmmaBurnell_/status/1216329749024452609
And this was the consequence.
twitter.com/EmmaBurnell_/status/1216349429843841024
He says she's fabricating.

I think that's it?

zanahoria · 12/01/2020 21:42

so he is tweeting about how he wants to disengage with twitter?

Tana433 · 12/01/2020 21:45

Also another person/people tweeting as Laura Piddock (but not her) pretending to be his dad who died two years ago and writng stupid things to him. Honestly i dont know how he carries on, he gets so much abuse and i now hes a bit marmite but really, does he deserve this?

EwwSprouts · 12/01/2020 21:46

A cynic would suggest he's after a bit of attention.

EwwSprouts · 12/01/2020 21:47

Completely does not deserve those fake dad emails.

CallofDoodee · 12/01/2020 21:48

No, definitely doesn't deserve those weird dead dad emails.

Still can't stand him and his misogyny though.

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AnyFucker · 12/01/2020 21:49

"Twitter is a hell hole"

No shit, Sherlock. I disengaged years ago.

CallofDoodee · 12/01/2020 21:50

So the Emma Burnell thing is separate?

To be honest, I think he probably does need to get off twitter for a while, for his own sake and everyone else's.

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DeeZastris · 12/01/2020 21:52

Who cares? The man is an arse.

Tana433 · 12/01/2020 21:58

So, see this is what i dont understand. I have only recently started following him, during the election campaign and wasnt really aware of anything about him other than that i really liked the way he explained things. I didnt understand LGBTQ ( and to be honest still dont really but am trying to educate myself. But the thing is, i thought Owen was pretty much live and let live, be and do whatever makes you happy. Is he anti- trans, anti-women or what? I have never gotten this vibe from him, i thought he was pretty cool whichever? Genuine question, not trying to cause aggro!

feelingverylazytoday · 12/01/2020 22:01

Twitter is a hellhole
But it's fine when it's going your way, isn't it Owen?

picklemepopcorn · 12/01/2020 22:02

He's anti people who disagree with him, Tana, and able to get pretty nasty with it.

Doyoumind · 12/01/2020 22:04

He's very pro trans and pro women who include males in their definition of woman.

LizzieSiddal · 12/01/2020 22:07

Twitter is a hellhole

Is he including his own behaviour? He’s encouraged many pile ons in his time.

Tana433 · 12/01/2020 22:13

@Doyoumind, forgive my ignorance on the subject. Do you mean he supports men who now identify as women but not women who identify as men? Im quite disappointed if this is the case as he comes across a really tolerent of everyone and a fairly decent guy. I shall be paying more attention to his views in future.

JayAlfredPrufrock · 12/01/2020 22:16

Hasn’t he bullied Giles Coren off Twitter?

They are all as bad as each other.

Creepster · 12/01/2020 22:18

The twitterverse is responding to him encouraging his thousands of followers to harass someone who said something he didn't like by giving him some of his own back and he does not like it.
Flying monkeys or Dementors, mobbing people on the internet with verbal abuse is wrong no matter who does it.

Tana433 · 12/01/2020 22:20

@JayAlfredPrufrock I think Giles Coren made a remark that was taken to be homophobic and when Owen called him out on it a group of Owen's "supporters" allegedly went round to Giles's house and harassed his wife and kids as Giles wasnt there at the time. All a bit pathetic on all sides really, i agree.

JanesKettle · 12/01/2020 22:21

OJ is a left wing misogynist who cannot bear to hear women disagree with him.

Doyoumind · 12/01/2020 22:23

No, he supports trans men but thinks anyone who speaks out about women's rights is transphobic.

Some people have views on how he has approached the subject of antisemitism in the Labour party as well.

I find him obnoxious and I would never have described him as live and let live.

Tana433 · 12/01/2020 22:27

@Doyoumind Thanks for the explanation.

Doyoumind · 12/01/2020 22:33

No harm in you googling 'Owen Jones flounce' either.

JanesKettle · 12/01/2020 22:39

Haha, 'tolerant guy'..mmm...so tolerant he's blocked half the female population of the UK. Super tolerant.

CallofDoodee · 12/01/2020 22:44

Owen reckons he is a feminist but thinks that women who want to protect their rights are 'transphobic' - he did use the term TERF at one point but appears to have realised that that is now an unacceptable term and will see him roasted.

He thinks that saying that women don't have penises is transphobia and thinks that women can have penises and should therefore be allowed in female vulnerable spaces. However, don't ask him if he would go down on a 'male vagina' because apparently that is 'erasing his sexuality'... Or something.

He posed next to a young women who was wearing a 'will suck dick for socialism t-shirt' and tweeted it. Notably he wasn't wearing the t-shirt. People who called him out on it were homophobic because, if you didn't already know, he is gay and so any sort of questioning of this shite is an attack on the whole 'queer' community.

He is one of these people who will tell all and sundry how woke and caring he is, and what a feminist he is, but has no qualms about throwing women right under that oncoming number 263 bus if he thinks it will make him look good.

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