Our favourite Canadian is at it again

[OnlyTheTitOfTheIceberg]

From Twitter:

"Yaniv’s new complaint again targets an esthetics salon run by women of immigrant background. She Point Beauty Studio is operated by East Indian women who are adherents to the Sikh religion. Yaniv approached the studio in August 2019 and first requested a Brazilian bikini wax.

"The studio refused, stating that their services are only for women. Yaniv then requested leg waxing services. Leg waxing takes place in private with the customer in their underwear or nude from the waist down.

"She Point Beauty Studio rejected Yaniv’s request for services due to religious, cultural and safety reasons, and because the salon services are specialized to women. Yaniv filed the complaint against She Point Beauty Studio in early October 2019.

"A hearing date has not yet been set for Yaniv’s new complaint. It is anticipated it will proceed to a hearing sometime in 2020."

Isn't the definition of stupidity doing the same thing and expecting a different result?

Fair play, Arran. I'll have a go (though expect I'll get deleted) for anyone not able / willing to watch.

Thank you for that public service and I hope that your recovery is swift.

I should mention that I have to rely on automated subtitles for many videos and these can go seriously off-track at times so I'm cautious about whether I've understood them properly. (It seems that I did so I am pretty sad about this.)

There’s a post on Kiwi Farms about this:

‘Not from the HRT he won't. He's persona non grata until he comes up with the 6 large. He's gotta pay the cost of admission to play again.‘

According to the Blair White video, JY is engaging in private video sharing groups with teenagers, and in those groups has shared videos of JYself masturbating while moaning Blair White's name. Blair has been sent one of these videos by a fan.

Aaaaaaand that's enough internet for today...

In Canada, if JY was sent to prison, could they be placed in a womens prison?

I wonder if JY is of the mind where they'd be happy to be incarcerated for this and thereby starting a new battle if they're not placed in the prison of their choice?

Attention attention attention.

This stuff couldn't be made up.

In Canada, if JY was sent to prison, could they be placed in a womens prison?

Considering that Canada now places male rapists & murderers of babies in women's prisons on their say-so, I'd think that's an emphatic YES:
torontosun.com/news/national/hunter-trans-killers-baby-rapists-terrifying-female-inmates

In Canada, if JY was sent to prison, could they be placed in a womens prison?

Of course. And if Yaniv sexually assaults anyone, the victim will be placed in solitary confinement and told to educate herself about canadian equalities law when she complains. But she'll be offered the morning after pill for free as is standard in womens prisons now allegedly.

Has he paid the amount required by the HRC to the other salon owners he tried to sue but lost?

Posted on Twitter in response to reports about JY and fetish.

medium.com/@whizzywickinson/i-specialised-in-working-with-male-sexual-offenders-for-twenty-years-for-west-yorkshire-probation-5a70be2e0877

Thank you for sharing that Medium article Fanny that's short, to the point and with the photo evidence. I'll pass that one straight on to my MP.

They always though miss the point that Karen White committed the sexual assaults in a female prison while awaiting trial for multiple rapes on a female mental health ward Karen White had self identified onto . So despite a very serious sexual attack on women in a female space, leaving a seriously injured woman behind them, Karen White was popped straight into another female space. To carry on offending.

You'd swear women were nothing more than bits of furniture to HM Government, you really would.

Are Karen White's victims able to sue the institutions and the Government?

That’s some article fanny
Fairly lays bare the facts around autogynephilia and fetishistic males predating women in single sex spaces

It's a really grim article isn't it Kilbranan , Michelle ? I don't know how we can come back from this and reclaim women's spaces. Too many men are getting off on invading them with the full backing of the law. Sometimes I feel like the only way it will be ended will be with a full on reverse swing of the pendulum taking women right back to our oppression - some sort of Gilead meets Victorian prudery meets the Amish meets Afghanistan.
I digress and derail.

Get on with it, Canada, and let everyone see how you protect the rights of people like Yaniv.

I wonder how much of this comes down to people no longer really understanding that sexual deviancy is really something that exists. It's almost as if the whole concept has been abandoned.

Or normalised?

Yeah. I think the message has been, whatever your natural sexual expression is, it's healthy and good. Barring non-consent. Because if we said any were unhealthy, well, that just opens the door to prudishness, homophobia, and Victorian attitudes.

But non-consent is really only one element of an unhealthy sexual preoccupation. There are all kinds of others, some of which create risk in terms of non-consent. But even if they don't, they represent a type of sexual development that has a good chance of negatively impacting the people who are involved in it. And sometimes they also represent an inappropriate kind of exposure to sexual content in the formative years.

This is something that psychologists are well aware of, and there are lots of studies and academic papers about it. But the public knowledge of it has really become sort of a blank. Enough so that I think many people are no longer capable of identifying warning signs when they see them.

tweet

“I agree generally with Ms. Yaniv that a person who customarily offers women the service of waxing their arms or legs cannot discriminate between cisgender and transgender women absent a bona fide reasonable justification”

I've never had my legs waxed but I believe the customer removes clothing from lower body apart from underwear. I would say not wanting to be in close proximity to male genitals, even if clothed, should be a good enough reason to refuse the waxing but not sure if the courts will see it like this.

My woker-than-woke right-on, TWAW, LOJ supporting brother works in a quite notorious men’s prison and even he says that he suspects some of the prisoners in his prison that are transitioning are just doing it to get an easier time inside and access to women and have no case of being trans at all. If you knew him you would consider it a big deal as he’s almost on the Layla “seeing souls” territory.

Didn't the judgement on the last case specifically mention that the judge might have ruled differently if the waxing service requested hadn't involved genitalia? I believe she specifically mentioned an arm wax. Which Yaniv apparently interpreted as a green light to try again with the extortion attempts, with the leg rather than arm waxing being an unsurprising attempt to push the boundaries as far as they might stretch.

Seems to me that the judge pretty much set this up for Yaniv. It wasn't quite step by step instructions about how to try again, but close enough.

I think the message has been, whatever your natural sexual expression is, it's healthy and good. Barring non-consent. Because if we said any were unhealthy, well, that just opens the door to prudishness, homophobia, and Victorian attitudes.

It’s like the Tim Minchin song- don’t open your mind so far that your brains fall out. That’s what’s happened here. People have been groomed to accept all sexual expression without question or you’re a ‘phobe.

"I don't want to touch that particular person" should be a good enough reason to refuse to perform any service involving bodily contact, unless it's a life or death situation for the recipient. If someone doesn't want to cut my hair, even for what I consider irrational reasons, should I be able to haul them into court? The whole thing is ridiculous.

Are Karen White's victims able to sue the institutions and the Government?

I believe one of them is taking the authorities to court over this - don't have any more details, though.

The boundary under attack is should a female person be allowed to choose whether the body they work with is biologically female or self identified/legally changed to be a woman. And know the difference. And have different feelings about this based on their own feelings, choices, perceptions, needs. In many ways it's what Maya sought to ask: where does this person's personal feelings and choices about their life allow them to override my objective reality and my own choices and feelings?

Canada's waxers/beauticians should have been on this after the first case and begun to specify clearly whether they provided for natal females/recorded as female at birth as opposed to 'women' which has become a catch all term, and opens them up to action. Interesting that this again targets ethnic minority providers.

The judge also skirted around the sexual aspects in the last case, which were very plainly there and should really have been addressed as to whether the complainant was indeed using the courtroom and questioning process to exploit this a little further. If a beautician is being expected to wax the legs of someone with a strongly visible erection, who wants to talk in detail about their tampon string, who is clearly finding the whole process extremely arousing and has sought it for that reason - then no, it's not 'absolutely the same' as waxing another female regarding it as a painful mundanity.

Boils down to the experience and rights of both people. As always.

Did anyone save that medium article? It's been reported and removed.