Keir Starmer - GRA

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Speaks out on GRA
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Is it just me but does that audience look underwhelmed?

FFS WHEN will Labour actually use their brain cells and get a reality check, rather than believe their own lazy BS by viewing everything through this victimhood/oppressed (whether real or not) woke narrative, and making changes on that basis, and claiming it as somehow progressive and claiming it is fighting for the (made up) victims. Then patting themselves on the back as being on the moral high ground.

Absolutely dangerous if they ever come to power.

Labour won't stop doin that, the idea of helping people, even if those people are not real, gives them a sense of superiority and a buzz of euthoria.

So all you have to do is claim victimhood to disguise your real agenda, constructive narrative around it, blind them with non sensical made up words and word salad, and Labour will be the useful idiots.

An insult to the real victims of oppression.

He was parroting the party line in a very rehearsed, studied, 'on message' way - but couldn't wait to get off the topic. He doesn't really believe it, and neither does anyone else. His discomfort was clear.

Is it just me but does that audience look underwhelmed

The audience hasn't got a clue......

Continuity Keir.

Disappointing - but realistically what else could he say?

I don't think he believes it.

He is, by a country mile, the most likely candidate to lead Labour to victory in 2025. He can't have any influence on the GRA before then so it doesn't matter what he says. He pointed out that the Tories have parked it.

By 2025 we will either be living under Trans Totalitarian Rule or, more likely, this whole shitshow will have burst wide open and people will be rushing to cover their arses and pretending that they never bought into this misogynistic, children-harming ideology. Apart from Layla.

Would be fab to have him on for a webchat, nevertheless @mnhq.

Love how labour has turned on its feminist voter base with this.....as well as aspiring middle class, working class, rural living people, Scots.....etc...there can't be many more left they haven't pissed off....that leaves the affluent London base I guess then but they will be alright as that is a large part of what MPS they have left isn't it?

Oh, Labour have made themselves an irrelevancy. Doesn't really matter, does it, what he says or thinks?

but realistically what else could he say?

Until a leadership candidate has the guts to speak truth to the membership, Labour will remain in the electoral wilderness. If he doesn't really believe it but says it anyway - he's no leader.

I think he was just saying the bare minimum he could get away with
years ago when he was DPP I heard him speak about fgm - I'm afraid I can't remember any specifics but he definitely got it.

I assume from his DPP days he is also conversant with that rape is with a penis and 51% of the population don’t have one... this is now being questioned...

To be quite honest, I think he would make a wonderful party leader and would encourage him to say anything just to get there.

I have spoken to him, face to face, on several topics, fgm being the main one, and found him to be warm, knowledgeable and genuinely wanting to know more.

He would get my vote anyday.

And yet he comes across as just as spineless as the rest of them.

He was an illiberal DPP so I'm not keen for that reason alone.

He didn't actually say anything.

"vulnerable group" "small group" (well it certainly used to be when the GRA was passed - but is it now? Stonewall trans umbrella...) "can't be made into a political football" "current govt have shelved it".

We are no more the wiser on what he would actually do from that clip - or did I miss something?

However, Keir seemed pretty au fait with women's vulnerability to rape & dv when he was at the CPS - I hope he doesn't forget that women exist and have rights too?

I am struggling to think of a single Labour MP, let alone a prospective party leader, who has the bottle to speak up for women. I admit I'm surprised at how little I care.

In any case I think it's the government we should be watching - I have no doubt they're being lobbied as we speak.

I don't think Dom Cummings is into identity politics or lgbtq rights.

He would be, if it was a vote winner - but it's not. Dom Cummings is only interested in winning.

Not a single Labour MP has come out as gender critical, because they would immediately be reported for transphobia, and deselected/ expelled from the party/ harassed/ have hate mobs visit their house/have the police called on them etc etc.

I'm up North and stuck for who to vote for, joining just to vote.
There's a lot round here joining to vote for Lisa Nandy, Jess Phillips, or RL Bailey are all popular. They are all local to me, Lisa is amazing.

Cummings might not be but I still don't think we should underestimate the reach of the trans lobby.

True - it's the parliamentary committees we need to watch. Layla Moran was sitting on one - was that when she said she could see souls?

I don't remember which committee Moran was on but yes, I'm sure the lobbyist will be all over them. There is no way they're going to wait (in all likelihood) 10 years for the chance of a more sympathetic government. They're pragmatists and they'll work with whoever has the power.

Sorry I'm derailing the thread aren't I? Back to Keir Starmer

They're pragmatists and they'll work with whoever has the power.

Ha - you betcha. And yet they can be so quick to call left wing women, the trade unionists of WPUK, etc, "right wing bigots"