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Helen Lewis Twitter abuse - what happened?

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ARoombaOfOnesOwn · 16/12/2019 13:04

I’ve only seen this today after some of the tweets have been deleted - did anyone see what happened? A male journo seemed to be going after her. Also she had sent Prick News an email criticising an article - not adhering to suicide reporting guidelines as well as misreporting. She is very balanced on the trans issue - I think it just shows their intolerance if they cannot tolerate even balanced articles and opinions.

Tweet about email sent here:
mobile.twitter.com/helenlewis/status/1206161837185785857

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PreseaCombatir · 16/12/2019 13:15

This is a screenshot from Twitter.
There was also an indication he said something like all of her former colleagues hate her?
And he calls her a Terf. Natch.

Helen Lewis Twitter abuse - what happened?
Floisme · 16/12/2019 13:17

I saw them yesterday morning. A journalist for the Independent sent her a series of abusive and personal tweets in the early hours of Sunday morning. Addressed her as 'babe' among other things. To be fair he later apologised to Helen and she accepted. The popular view was that his employers had seen the potential for lawsuits and instructed him to do so. A couple of other writers had also joined in - don't know if they backtracked or not. I genuinely cannot remember any of the names concerned, so distinguished are they.

If you check out Twitter feeds for Julie Bindel, Helen Joyce or James Kirkup you'll probably find out more and I think Jean Hatchet took screenshots.

PreseaCombatir · 16/12/2019 13:17

Oh here, found more

Helen Lewis Twitter abuse - what happened?
PreseaCombatir · 16/12/2019 13:19

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stillathing · 16/12/2019 13:23

Stopped reading the independent months ago. Not a single click. Unlike the Guardian who I've merely stopped paying for.

Floisme · 16/12/2019 13:26

Yeah that was one of the other writers who jumped in. There was also someone who I think was called Ben/Benjamin.

I thought Helen's response to the apology was very classy. I'm not sure I would have been as gracious.

GlitchStitch · 16/12/2019 13:28

One of the men who joined in the pile on was Benjamin Cohen, CEO of Prick News. And Nick Duffy who I think is one of their reporters? He's now locked his account.

PreseaCombatir · 16/12/2019 13:31

I thought Helen's response to the apology was very classy. I'm not sure I would have been as gracious

I don’t think I could have been either.

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 16/12/2019 14:04

It was a very stark example of the misogyny that is alive and well in the world of journalism. Well, among the very mediocre men who like to think they are journalists but can only dream of aspiring to half of what Helen Lewis has achieved.

I assume they thought that they would get a lot of support and admiration from other journalist men. Instead, it was really lovely to see many well-known male journalists speaking up for Helen.

ACouchOfOnesOwn · 16/12/2019 14:09

The Pink News journalist implied that Helen had emailed him after an article and that she had been transphobic and threatened never to publish him. But Helen shared the email which showed neither of those things had happened.
It was a horrible misogynistic pile-on for absolutely no reason.

teawamutu · 16/12/2019 14:16

Was indeed wonderful to see people standing up for Helen. The wokebeards didn't know what had hit them.

Datun · 16/12/2019 14:18

Don't they realise that this is all public stuff? That she can show the email? And their words are there for all people to read? All the 'babes' and 'everyone hates yeww'.

Dear god. Absolute children.

And the lack of self awareness is staggering.

jadefinch · 16/12/2019 15:12

It was much worse than childish insults – it was just about the worst bullying I’ve ever seen on social media, in an attempt to humiliate Helen and destroy her career.

First Louis Staples of the Independent sent a barrage of tweets saying that everyone she worked with at the New Statesmen hated her, then when some evidence emerged of former colleagues saying they really liked her, he changed it to five people under the age of 30 who work there told him this.

She replied saying she was upset by these claims, to which Staples tried to goad her with several tweets along the lines of ‘u ok hun x’, ‘does this hurt your feelings?’ and ‘happy to discuss further if you’re not freaking out over unisex toilets’.

Then Nick Duffy of Pink News joined in and said that Helen had told him he would never be allowed to write an article for her publication because he had criticised her ‘transphobic mate’, to which Staples replied that this is a story he hears a lot and Benjamin Cohen, the CEO of Pink News, replied stating ‘she’s vile’.

She then posted the email she’d sent to Duffy which showed that his claim was a total lie. Pink News had published a biased article about puberty blockers in which it stated that people who have concerns about them are ‘anti trans’, and all Helen said was that she didn’t think this rhetoric was helpful and that it makes commissioning articles on gender more difficult when complex issues are dumbed down to such aggressively, tribal levels.

Worried now that he could be about to be sued for libel, Staples deleted all his tweets and issued a carefully worded apology, but the bullying bat call had been signalled.

Among the highlights: Yahoo News journalist Francis Whittaker said Staples should not be forced to apologise because, even if he’d been lying, he had called out transphobia, and that was OK.

The NUS’s women’s officer, Rachel Watters, tweeted: ‘a reminder that if you're platforming / working with Helen Lewis you're mainstreaming her obsessive hatred of trans people.’

And Guardian journalist James Greig wrote of Staples: ‘Seeing a journalist getting bullied into issuing an apology for an entirely reasonable criticism of transphobia is grim’.

Duffy protected his account and Cohen still hasn’t removed the ‘she’s vile’ tweet, even though he’s known for over 24 hours that what he was responding to was a lie.

LangCleg · 16/12/2019 15:49

What strikes me about this is that Helen is the least terven terf who ever terfed. She's even said TWAW for most purposes, FFS.

Just goes to show. Not a word out of place will be countenanced by the male supremacists.

Uncompromisingwoman · 16/12/2019 16:00

I saw this last night - and agree with Lang - only total capitulation by women at the altar of male demands will ever be enough.

I was heartened by so many people tweeting their support for her here:

mobile.twitter.com/helenlewis/status/1205967624317865984 .

ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 16/12/2019 16:10

Absolute children.

The childishness is disturbing but seems to be an increasing feature of 'social' media discourse.

I really, really cannot imagine these men speaking this way in real life, particularly not to other men (and the men I know in the real world are infinitely blunter in their views of all things trans than Helen Lewis would ever dream of being), so what is about a public platform like Twitter that they forget civility completely?

ThePurported · 16/12/2019 16:31

What Lang said. They must have used up their list of 10,000 terfiest women for these Two Minutes Twitter Hate sessions.

Don't they realise that this is all public stuff?
Oh they do - hounding women who write about women's rights is the new 'right side of history' for this lot. They should google Lewis's Law Wink

HandsOffMyRights · 16/12/2019 17:46

Ben Cohen's contempt for women wasn't even concealed when he appeared on TV during the GRA.

Now I know why he doesn't do much TV.

Ereshkigal · 16/12/2019 18:43

Great summary jade. I was up late Sat night and saw most of it play out live.

terfsandwich · 16/12/2019 19:05

Yep.
It's a cult.

ClosdesMouches · 16/12/2019 19:40

I'm on adifferent time zone currently so I saw much of the abuse play out 'live'. jadefinch has given an excellent summary.

Siameasy · 16/12/2019 19:53

Wow that’s insane - are we sure it’s grown men and not 16 yr old boys?!?
Good to see some names weighing in. A Tory MP and Sky’s Kate McCann

KettlePolly · 16/12/2019 20:07

It's pure misogyny. They can't see it.

KettlePolly · 16/12/2019 20:09

We are variously pleading, reasoning, stating that these things have really crap consequences. For children and women. Slapped down. You can spot the cock at 50 fucking metres.

LizzieSiddal · 16/12/2019 20:14

Poor Helen.

These men are utter bastards, why haven’t they been banned from Twitter for bullying, misogyny and lying?