Conservative landslide - how are we feeling as feminists?

[Cwenthryth]

I feel very mixed this morning. So worried about what this means for public services, policing, NHS, social care, mental health services, housing, in-work poverty... all of which disproportionately affects women, either as those needing these services or picking up the pieces when dependents cannot access what they need. We now have an openly misogynist prime minister (we did before, but now he has a secure mandate), who won’t even acknowledge all of his children whilst slagging off single mothers, and has had the police called out due to neighbours fearing for the safety of his partner from what they could hear through the wall.

But there’s a tiny silver lining of it seeming that it seems very unlikely that self-ID would be brought in under this government, at least in the form the Lib Dems were touting for, so we are probably more secure on retaining sex-based rights than we would have been with any other result.

To be honest it’s not really much comfort to me right now.

Hahahaha! Only if it is Dawn Butler.

Perhaps an organisation like Woman’s Place could request a meeting with all the new female MPs to set out the position of GC feminists. I’m sure there are some returning MPS who would help facilitate a meeting of some kind.

Perhaps an organisation like Woman’s Place could request a meeting with all the new female MPs to set out the position of GC feminists.

Good idea . Seeing the consequences for Jo Swinson when she tried defend her woke position might concentrate their minds right now.

Right now Woman's Hour are talking about what the result means for women.

Jane Garvey musing that it's been difficult to gauge women's attitudes to policies and parties during this election campaign - how can we find out what women think and want?

JANE - READ MUMSNET. IT'S ALL HERE.

(I actually think she probably does. As do many journalists and political advisors. In future perhaps they won't be so quick to dismiss the things that they read here.)

Jane Garvey musing that it's been difficult to gauge women's attitudes to policies and parties during this election campaign

I think there is also the total lack of diversity of political opinions, and especially on broadcast media. Sky, BBC etc have identical views on Brexit for example. This is why there is such bafflement among certain journalists....,

I’m a Tory voter living in Scotland, and I’m praying that Boris stands by his pledge to refuse another independence referendum. He’s the only thing standing between Scotland and financial suicide, judging by the bloody SNP vote yesterday.

I agree that the SNP are a worrying force; not just because of the nationalistic aspect.

Politically they are one of the most authoritarian forces ever to arise on these islands. I think the named person scheme attempted to establish a truly horrific level of state intervention in family life.
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Given how this dovetails so neatly with transgender ideology this is doubly worrying and has not gone away for good , in my opinion.

OP - in response to your earlier question, as a woman I can still call myself a woman and feel it means to the government what I feel it means to me. I believe that the people looking to undermine that viewpoint have less of a mouthpiece, certainly in the short term whilst sorting their own houses out takes the heat out of their movement, which will help stop the steam roller if momentum it has. There are more women MPs, that gives breadth to discussions. I think this is a good thing. Yes some good women MPs have lost their seats, and you never know - these might be better.

Perhaps an organisation like Woman’s Place could request a meeting with all the new female MPs to set out the position of GC feminists. I’m sure there are some returning MPS who would help facilitate a meeting of some kind.

That's a great idea, CaveMum!

Good about self ID

Sort of relieved but also sad Labour have made themselves so unelectable.

What Lang said

I game with about 80 men they are plumbers plasters car mechanics who would have been labour voters

But they were talking about it last night and they felt patronised by corbyn and London labour and that labour now doesn’t have a clue about ordinary people’s lives

Relieved Jo Swinson has gone. Hopeful that gender neutral loos are consigned to history.

But pretty alert about maternity rights if we leave the EU. Not belligerent exactly, more aware....

My female Labour MP was replaced by a male Conservative MP.
In the adjoining contituencies, 2 more female Labour MPs were replaced by male Conservative MPs.
Not good.
Yet there are more women in parliament than ever before...mixed result on that front.

I'm also thinking of rejoining Labour now.

I feel mixed - sad yet oddly relieved and ashamed at feeling relieved. The only silver lining for me is that with Corbyn gone at least there is a chance to build a Labour party which isn't based on Momentum cult policies. Such a huge defeat must make Labour realise that they are unelectable in their current state?

I don’t like BJ and think he’s a privileged nob that is completely out of touch with society as a whole, however he’ll slap it up the Labour Party and all the woke bros. Aren’t we always being told that ‘every vote counts’? So they haven’t lost entirely due to their betrayal of women, but those women and their families that voted against them or spoiled their vote, helped put another little nail in Labour’s coffin. How’s that ‘right side of history’ working out for you ‘folks’? 😁

He’ll = hell

Labour: 104 women, 98 men

Conservatives: 87 women, 277 men

Lib Dems: 7 women, 4 men

SNP: 16 women, 32 men

DUP: 1 woman, 7 men

Sinn Fein: 2 women, 5 men

But they were talking about it last night and they felt patronised by corbyn and London labour and that labour now doesn’t have a clue about ordinary people’s lives

llittlebrowndog

I think that’s what has annihilated them in the North. Labour have lost constituencies they held for a hundred years. If that doesn’t trigger some sober analysis of their message, presentation and leadership? That doesn’t involve demonizing the voters they need, I don’t know what will.

Yeah bovary. From twitter below which sums it up

Rother Valley has been a safe Labour seat since it was created more than 100 years ago. It doesn't have one Tory councillor. Then Momentum selected a middle class 23 year old trans rights activist who called child abuse survivors 'trash' if they had concerns about a strip club..

Wow, RedToothbrush - interesting to see the number of female Labour MPs!

I generally feel the same as the OP. I think the consequences of having a Tory government are going to be disastrous for women, particularly poorer women, but I doubt very much they will implement self-ID, and as they're going to be in power for five years, we can hopefully stop worrying about it for a while. Though obviously we still need to fight battles with the various organisations like Girl Guides, the NHS etc who are behaving as if self-ID is already law.

The new Labour leader will be chosen by its members. Will there be time for new signups to get a vote? I know there is a minimum three month membership requirement in the Conservative party.

I can still call myself a woman and feel it means to the government what I feel it means to me
Thanks Duchess, I understand that.

Going to do a bit of online research into my CLP.

With more female than male lab mps, statistically the leader is more likely to be female...

Yeah bovary. From twitter below which sums it up. Rother Valley has been a safe Labour seat since it was created more than 100 years ago. It doesn't have one Tory councillor. Then Momentum selected a middle class 23 year old trans rights activist who called child abuse survivors 'trash' if they had concerns about a strip club

Seriously? That is just dire. Social media has created an self righteous, shouty echo chamber which informs Labour’s policies and this is the upshot. The electoral map shows wipeout in the North and Midlands. I do think that Swinson’s loss will really focus attention on the GC issue. I agree with what many posters have said about writing to their MP to press this point.

With more female than male lab mps, statistically the leader is more likely to be female...

Just hope they pick a good one.
Just had a google of that Rotherham PCC, Sophie Wilson.
Sounds like it was a disastrous choice to put her in.
They replaced a 73yo bloke with decades of experience a 23yo councillor with silly woke views and expect the electorate to go with it.

If it’s going to be 5 years til Labour get anywhere near again then one of the few positives is that so much can happen before we get near a law change. Think of the differences in the last year alone. We have time for sunlight, sunlight, sunlight. We will work hard and so will our favourite Sherpas.