12 year old to start puberty blockers

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This child thinks they’ll be able to have a womb transplant to have a baby when they get older. It seems so cruel to lie to a child like this. link here

I'm a mother of a 12 year old DS and I can tell you at 3 he wanted to wear bright red lipstick and nail polish like his grandmother!
He would wear my sarongs like dresses and flip flops ( we lived overseas at the time ) and wouldn't have his hair cut.
Still has long hair.
Both of my sons would pick pink toys and dolls , alongside cars and trains.
Nobody encouraged this or said it was naughty.
My 10 year old still pinches a ragged old pink Mickey Mouse t shirt of mine and wears it at home.
No big deal.
My 12 year old is such a feminine looking, beautiful boy but he's almost 13 the hormones have kicked in and he's out to impress every girl who looks his way and the wanting to copy granny or mummy has stopped naturally.
I will get flamed for this but it's great that kids are allowed to be kids and have no sex stereotype pushed on them but I do think sometimes with little ones when they want to play dress up or play with a doll sometimes parents encourage this too much.
These young brains are just not equipped for this.
This particular child no has no privacy and neither do the 7 siblings of the child .
How can this be healthy? Outer to the whole world at such a vulnerable time in a child's life.
I can't see what the mother has to gain from this , except ( call me cynical) money from stories sold or potential tv appearances.
I just feel that this child should be supported and protected.
I don't feel that they are being safeguarded adequately with all of this press.

I find all of this so distressing but I also feel powerless. I used to comment frequently on SM but it was so so draining because if you question it you are a hater. Looking at the FB page the amount of people praising this is despicable. I could cry honestly. This will not end well a la Jazz

How can it possibly be in this child‘s best interest to have intimate, identifying details splashed all over the newspapers?

That alone should make us question the judgement of the parents.

The Womb transplant quote made me very uncomfortable. It seems wrong to provide hope to a child for this, as the procedure is not possible.
A lot of misinformation and projection happening, l am so worried about these children.

Yeah. Where is that womb coming from, kid? And whose egg and sperm are you using? Because prostate cancer drugs followed by cross sex hormones means you won’t be producing any sperm of your own.

Would be interesting to know if family dynamics play a part in body dysphoria.

No idea about dysphoria, but boys who have older brothers are more likely to be gay.

www.newscientist.com/article/2156010-we-may-know-why-younger-brothers-are-more-likely-to-be-gay/

Surely its abusive to tell boys they can have a womb implanted? That's a red flag for me on its own.

It’s so wrong that this womb transplant fantasy is even being discussed with a vulnerable child.
Do social services think this is appropriate, do GP’s and the people at CAHMS ?
I just don’t understand how the many layers of child protection that we have in this country are allowing this medical pathway and belief in something that is completely unachievable for children.
This is not ok.

Terrible that a parent can put up a photo of their 3 year old wearing a princess dress as ‘evidence’ that they were meant to be a girl and that this is a valid course for a 12 year old. I wonder what mental health investigations the whole family has had.

I can’t understand all the ‘girls are this’ in the transgender debate, it seems backwards in so many respects.

So, so wrong. We all know puberty can be a horrible time but we have to go through it. All the evidence, scientific as well as anecdotal, suggests most gender dysphoric kids grow out of the dysphoria once puberty is over and the hormones settle down.

Children put on these puberty blockers don't go through the brain maturing that is a big part of puberty. They fall behind their peers. The other children in their year group are shooting up in height, boys' voices breaking, girls' figures developing, interests changing, and the child on blockers is just that, still a child. No wonder they're isolated and experience mental health difficulties.

Then there's the topic that's really difficult to discuss, but vital. Nobody understands what sexual function is like until they've gone through puberty. How can a child kept in a pre-pubertal state possibly understand what they are giving up if they take a cocktail of drugs that may make it impossible for them ever to have an orgasm? Judging by this 4thWaveNow blog post, the so called experts don't know and haven't really thought about this aspect of the 'treatment'. 4thwavenow.com/2018/07/08/does-prepubertal-medical-transition-impact-adult-sexual-function/

And then there's fertility. No way can a pre-pubertal child know what they're giving up there.

These are complex decisions and once again I'm just flabbergasted that professionals in medicine, social work, the law and education are all just standing back and letting this disaster unfold - or actively facilitating it.

It’s anti individual in fact. It’s wanting to find some kind of alternative fitting into a stereotype rather than accepting yourself.

Home educated now, as was - I think - Jazz Jennings? Hm.

If they genuinely believe they will have a womb transplant and birth a baby, I can't see how this is even close to informed consent. Can they claim its to stop suicide, if the child suffers anxiety as well? I can't see what consent loophole they are going through, how this has become established practice.

The starting point, for any medical condition, must be to do the least possible. Except when it comes to gender confusion.

There can be no watchful waiting if the child's belief is reinforced by everyone. Frankly, the damage has been done after 7 or 8 years of continuous affirmation.

Children being driven down the trans pathway at 100mph are the most heartbreakingly awful part of this whole sorry mess for me. That there are so many children being failed by the system is horrifying.

Letssplash there is a lot of info missing from GIDS’ “informed” consent forms

On the newspaper’s facebook page most of the comments about the article from women are very supportive of the mother and the path her child is on - whereas most of the men who comment are very blunt in their disapproval.

I know that area. It's hugely deprived and the secondary schools are shit because of the grammar school system so it's basically locked in a cycle of poverty and poor education.

And this child has seven siblings is it?

But I'm sure that has nothing to do with it.

I think women have been brainwashed by the “be nice, be kind” thing whereas men haven’t SuperSleepyBaby
After I read that article I scrolled down and got an Ad for a top saying “in a world where you can be anything, be kind”
Modelled by a woman, clearly aimed at young women.
Men do like to tell us to be nice (ladylike) but they aren’t bothered about how they act themselves
A “blunt” man is a “rude” woman
If you’re a woman and you deviate from the be nice script you will face huge disapproval from other women. I experience this a lot because I act “like a man”

How can it possibly be in this child‘s best interest to have intimate, identifying details splashed all over the newspapers?

That alone should make us question the judgement of the parents

Indeed. There is no mention of the father so I assume this is all coming from the mother.

Ash featured in a Channel 4 Documentary a couple of years ago.

tavistockandportman.nhs.uk/about-us/kids-edge-channel-4-documentary/kids-edge-gender-clinic/

tavistockandportman.nhs.uk/about-us/kids-edge-channel-4-documentary/kids-edge-gender-clinic/how-matt-and-ash-feel-about-taking-part-our-documentary/

So Ash is no stranger to this level of attention. I wonder how their siblings feel?

This is despicable. I'm sorry but this child has been put in the media to guilt people who know better into caving to delusional, dangerous, and life-ruining demands so we don't look "mean" saying "no" to a child. It's manipulative propaganda.

@Clymene I feel this poor child is being exploited , for what ends is anybody's guess but it is so unsettling to see a vulnerable young persons story shared via mainstream and other platforms.
As a mother my first instinct is to protect and nurture.
This kind of exposure is bound to have a negative impact on Ash and all of the many siblings Ash has.
Something needs to be done to safeguard these children but anybody who speaks up is called transphobic.
The world has gone mad.

It’s like this case too:
www.google.ie/amp/s/www.thesun.ie/fabulous/4764174/mum-transgender-boy-right-privates/amp/

Here’s an extract:

“Speaking with Ray D'Arcy on RTE Radio One she explained how she came to realise her son was different.
She said: "My older girl when she was born, by the time she could walk and talk she was the dancing queen as her granny called her.
"She was pink, she was sparkly and the second kid came along and wasn’t."
Aisling's son Steve began to have tantrums when expected to wear girls swimming togs on a trip to a pool and that's when she spoke to her GP about it.”

This child knew she was really a boy from age 2 and a half!

Do you have to be ‘pink and sparkly’ to be a girl?

Once you go so public about it, it makes it even more difficult for the child to back out of the process, if they want, later on.

Well as I child I would chew ribbons and collars on dresses that my grandma had made for me just to wreck them and not wear them again ( think Alice in wonderland style ) , loved my arsenal kit, dungarees, my St. Louis cardinals baseball jersey and my mini US airforce flight jumpsuit and flight jacket that my dad gave me .
Miniature version of his uniform.
I didn't have people declaring me trans.
My sister who was all sparkles and Barbies is a very butch lesbian.
I'm a hetro , married mother of two.
Pink does not equal girls and blue does not equal boys.
These people are bat shit.