Sam Smith's 'feminine self'

[HandsOffMyRights]

Sam's back spouting more sexist claptrap:

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7765891/Sam-Smith-reveals-feeling-vulnerable-releasing-new-music-feminine-self.html

Sam explained the reason for being "scared": 'Being my feminine self in this world that we're in, I mean the music industry can be a bit homophobic, a bit sexist at times,

'So being feminine like this in the way I move and dance and am, it feels quite scary at times but is worth it.'

Sam then goes on to promote more regressive female stereotyping:

After checking out the size of presenter Symon's heeled boots, Sam said: 'I don't know how you girls do it, I can't go out dancing in heels ... Red carpet, I can do it all day. But singing live in heels? It's impossible.'

He gave me the creeps before that anyway! I always thought Come On Eileen was a bit rapey...

Me too. The My Beauty album just confirmed it.

High heels? feminine in the way I dance? fuck off.

Come back and talk to me about your weak pelvic floor and pay gap, mate.

Sorry, that 'fuck off' was not directed at a person, just at the abstract concept of femininity being attached to such a narrow and cliched set of stereotypes, just to make that clear.

Mentioning Boy george is interesting, because when I was 8 me and my friend couldn’t work out if he was a girl or a boy.

I hate - Boy George was on TOTP and my Mum said "gosh she's pretty" and me and my brother nearly wet ourselves laughing. Happy days!

I remember seeing a grizzly macho rock star being interviewed and telling about how he saw first boy George on tv and said ‘wow can you get me a date with her?’ before someone told him that ‘she’ was George.

Wait, if boots with block heels make you a woman, doesn't that mean KISS are women? They wore a lot more makeup than Sam Smith too.

This is going to be very confusing for the 1000+ women who Gene Simmons supposedly shagged, particularly those with personal experience of what sex with a woman is like who can thus do a direct comparison.

Apparently Sam is friends with Alok, so, you know, easily influenced people are easily influenced.

Wait, if boots with block heels make you a woman, doesn't that mean KISS are women? They wore a lot more makeup than Sam Smith too.

I don’t have any heels or makeup. Maybe I need to be rethinking my pronouns...

Empress Do you have a gold Lame purse though?

Empress Do you have a gold Lame purse though?

Um no.... I’ve got a pink dressing gown, does that count?

Pfft, I raise your 90s, 80s, 70s & 60s with 50s Little Richard

But yes Sam, go on thinking you're sooooo daring and progressive!

Rich privileged white man claims oppression because it’s the only thing his money can’t buy him.

Indeed!

I realize Sam is young but there's no excuse for not knowing the history of your own industry.

Pondering on this (and being charitable)...... is it that during the late 90s/noughties, blue/pink gender stereotyping became more and more rigidly enforced....so these younger millennials/gen z-ers genuinely are breaking ground for their generation? But it’s old hat to anyone over 30 because we weren’t subjected to quite such harsh programming during our childhoods (or are old enough to have seen it all broken down the first time around)? So they’re not progressive as such, more trying to un-do regression (but in a fairly piss poor, half hearted fashion cos they can’t quite bring themselves to say, no, gender is just shit). Perhaps?

Why does the gender word buy you extra special protection from women's speech ?

Smith is not trans. He is a little bit 'feminine' whatever the fuck that means. He is in the public eye, because that's how he has a career. He puts himself in the public eye in order to continue making money from his (imo crap) music.

Why the f*ck does he get protection - be nice, ladies! - that a woman of color (Meghan) doesn't ?

I loathe the Royal Family, and I am totally not there for Meghan either, as part of it, but c'mon, why on Earth is it OK for people to critique her, harshly, on another part of the site, but Smith is off-limits ?

It's so offensive - there, there, girls, don't trash talk the brave gender-fluid boy.

Smith isn't vulnerable, in any way, shape or form. Why does Mumsnet make the people in society who are actually vulnerable - ordinary women - bite their tongues in special ways when a man claims a gender identity ?

Smith isn't even brave. He's just derivative. All this was done before him, by better artists, who actually went against the cultural tide of macho manliness. This is just jumping on the train as it goes past your station.

Any other singers we're not allowed to criticise ? Or is it just the male ones with feelz ?

Just seems like dull people trying to use gender as a substitute for having a personality to me tbh. The genuinely interesting ones seem to be carrying on as people always have.

breaking ground for their generation?

Breaking ground, in this generation, would mean being a proud out and out gay, camp artist, without any of the gender bollocks.

This is the geezer who says he's part woman because he's got flabby thighs isn't it?

This is the geezer who says he's part woman because he's got flabby thighs isn't it?

??! How very sensitive and empathic of them.

No, he really did, I'm sure. He said he felt part woman because he puts on weight where women put weight on, like their thighs.

(NB not their heads.)

That just sends me straight to Blackadder I'm afraid. ("You have a WOMAN'S THIGHS, my lord" etc)

Probably should have phrases that they think they’re breaking ground!

That just sends me straight to Blackadder I'm afraid. ("You have a WOMAN'S THIGHS, my lord" etc)

Hehehehehe. Tom Baker at his finest.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=_EfW9znJYjw

Or the womanly hips from 24 Hour Party People.

Sam Smith was recently feted for his weight loss efforts, he lost a lot IIRC.

I've got a theory that as he got fed up with that and started gaining weight he felt more feminine and he got back some of his manly curves. Including small man boobs.

You can scroll through his insta and see the transformation from chubby Sam, to super thin Sam to feminine Sam.

I have to say, in terms of inspiring solidarity "I'm like a woman because they're fat" may be rank among the most unlikely to succeed attempts of all time.