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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

So where have you been asked about your gender identity rather than your sex?

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xxyzz · 05/12/2019 00:17

Just got a survey from ENO about a recent visit to the London Coliseum.

I was asked what my "gender identity" was.

I ticked "other" and explained I didn't have a gender identity, as there is no such thing, but I had a biological sex, which was female.

This substituting of "gender identity" for "sex" seems to have become mainstream in just the last year or so.

Apologies if there's already a thread on this, but if not, could people lease list below other companies/organisations who have now routinely removed all reference to biological sex in favour of gender identity?

To get a sense of the scale of the problem - and possible mass email or tweet them on this.

No idea why English National Opera would care that eg one of their male patrons likes to wear eyeliner on a Wednesday. Confused

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Aquilla · 05/12/2019 14:08

Our science museum. They also covered up the anatomically correct prehistoric human models when muslims visited a few years ago. I don't know what's bloody worse.

xxyzz · 05/12/2019 16:11

Can I say, as the OP, I don't personally mind cases where I am asked for my gender, with 2 options, male and female (or maybe 3, the 3rd being Prefers not to state). Gender has historically been used as a synonym for sex and this caused no problems whatsoever because we all knew it was being used as a polite synonym and there were only 2 choices, male/female.

I was posting specifically about places where it now asks for your "gender identity" - because this is new. I don't think I'd seen it in the wild on forms etc until very recently (whereas gender meaning sex I've seen all my life).

It's the "identity" bit that annoys me - I don't identify as a woman, I am a woman.

And that's before we get into all the "assigned at birth" nonsense.

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OhHolyJesus · 05/12/2019 16:55

On a work survey
At my GP surgery
At the library
At a spa

On hard copy forms you can cross them out but few online options let you have a free text box to write down how you feel about the word 'gender'.

FamilyOfAliens · 06/12/2019 08:53

@Tidy2018

If you did this and came to our school, I’d have made a point of coming to find you to shake your hand Grin

WomanBornNotWorn · 07/12/2019 00:27

I recently got v annoyed in my doctor's waiting room, seeing a notice board with an A3 poster for a trans youth organisation given pride of place over the smaller leaflets re cancer, heart disease, flu jabs - but what most annoyed me was the notice at the top announcing 'the surgery does not discriminate on the grounds of gender, gender reassignment', bla bla bla - no mention of sex.

So without much hope I emailed them the relevant Equality Act bits, pointing out that if they were hit with a sex discrimination case they'd possibly lose because they'd given out the message that they didn't consider sex a protected characteristic.

On my next visit - new notice up, sex first on the list, gender gone.

Gobsmacked.

xxyzz · 07/12/2019 22:25

Ooh, well done, WomanBornNotWorn!

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