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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

GRC

21 replies

AliceToo · 01/12/2019 12:42

Now it has become clear that a Gende Recognition Certificate is only intended to enable Trans Women to change their birth certificate. How else are we feminists going to take the fight forward to keep men out of women's spaces and protect our children.

I'm so disheartened I don't know what more Women can do.

Any suggestions?

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AnyOldPrion · 01/12/2019 13:38

Only transwomen? Bit sexist isn’t it?

AliceToo · 01/12/2019 13:52

Well we all know its only men who take advantage of women at every turn.

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Birdsfoottrefoil · 01/12/2019 14:11

I think it will take more court cases - though they cost a lot of money. Eg it would be good if transgendertrend and other groups could sue Stonewall for defamation. Also if organisations (and EHRC) could be sued for discrimination against females. (This is what EHRC should have been doing). Holding schools to account for illegally allowing political lobby groups to set policy etc.

Inebriati · 01/12/2019 14:18

I don't know what we can do. We've always known things were bad, but recently it feels like the mask has slipped.
The situation in Canada shows, once you've lost a legal right its an uphill battle trying to persuade people to change it back because they feel like you are asking them to lose face and admit they were wrong. And its clear that many people would rather pretend things are fine and turn a blind eye to the harms done than admit they could have been wrong.

CatalogueUniverse · 01/12/2019 14:25

Do you have a GRC AliceToo?

You’ve mentioned before you are a transwoman, would you be open to saying if you do and if so what benefit or not it has brought?

AliceToo · 01/12/2019 14:48

I don't. I'm quite happy staying female thankyou.

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CatalogueUniverse · 01/12/2019 14:57

Sorry, I’m not being deliberately obtuse. On this thread you referred to yourself as a trans woman. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/feminist_activism/3472118-GC-Radfem-group-Norwich

I presumed the terminology meant born male identifies as a woman. Apologies if I have misunderstood.

AliceToo · 01/12/2019 15:01

No worries. Somthing strange going on there. I live in Penzance and have no idea where that came from.

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AliceToo · 01/12/2019 15:02

Do you think I should report it?

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AliceToo · 01/12/2019 15:04

I think I will. That is to spooky!

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thatdamnwoman · 01/12/2019 15:05

I certainly think you should!

Inebriati · 01/12/2019 15:26

It could be someone registered using an Ipad and they've used upper or lower case letters, or numbers, so the username looks identical to yours.
But the site did have a technical issue recently where if two people logged in at the same time they could end up on each others accounts, so you might want to post about it on Site Stuff, or report the post.

Ohyesthatgc · 01/12/2019 15:53

Your forgetting about trans men, they can get them as well

LangCleg · 01/12/2019 16:20

That's odd, Alice. It seems to be the same account, going by Advanced Search. You should probably secure your devices. Or, as Inebriati says, start a thread in Site Stuff.

NotAssigned · 01/12/2019 16:25

Is a GRC only for the purpose of changing a birth certificate?

Ohyesthatgc · 01/12/2019 16:33

Leads to them being able to marry, early pension (than the Male age) and that’s it I think?

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 01/12/2019 16:34

What an amazing coincidence. Isn’t it funny that so many of the names I tried to pick were already taken, yet there’s your name being used in two different feminist posts, both related to trans? What’s the chances?

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 01/12/2019 16:37

Actually AliceToo, I don’t know why your so concerned as your seem very supportive of mixed sex area, going by your other posts. It’s very confusing.

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 01/12/2019 16:37

As your other posts seem....

Gingerkittykat · 01/12/2019 17:21

Your forgetting about trans men, they can get them as well

Trans men are not a problem in female only spaces.

It is up to men to decide if they want biological women in their spaces or not.

KatvonHostileExtremist · 01/12/2019 22:32

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