I hope you never have children- Labour and self id

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Labour have just knocked on my door campaigning. After listening to their much rehearsed answers on Brexit (I am very pro remain) I asked them about their policy on self ID. She didn't know what self ID was. Then, when I explained it further, she said "I hope you never have children" and walked off. I am extremely upset. I am about as far from a judgy rightwinger as its possible to get. I just happen to have concerns about women's rights as well as trans rights. Why cant I ask a campaigner about this without being insulted? I am just terribly upset that she appears to be judging me like this. For what it's worth, I have a brilliant woman labour MP, who I voted for last time. This time? Not after this.

I think it depends on what chamber you reside in Captainkirk

Ah.

Well thank you for your time and have a lovely evening.

Pinky do YOU think that women can have penises?

www.heraldscotland.com/news/16328719.poll-finds-people-oppose-self-declared-gender-by-3-to-1/

Even PINK FUCKING NEWS COULD GET ENOUGH SUPPORT!!!

So we’ve had a Lib Dem representative telling a woman the party isn’t for her because she is gender critical, and now we have a Labour canvasser behaving like this? Anyone had any run-ins with a Tory so I can call bingo?

Fucking disgraceful. Complain, complain, complain, OP!

Due to safety fears and concerns over the potential nefarious usage of self id, that’s fairly obvious I’d say?

Would you say Pink News readers would be the wrong people to Poll PinkyU?

I can tell you where the view is wildly held, 100% of that little 18% support self ID.

I think it depends on what chamber you reside in Captainkirk

The chamber I reside in is a university, and I can promise you that not even there does anything like a majority of people think that a woman can have a penis.

Anyone had any run-ins with a Tory so I can call bingo?

Quite the opposite tbf. I think the Tories are in reverse because they know it is a vote loser.

Even the most Pro Self ID poll can only get 50% Pinkyu why is that do you think?

It's a wildly held view afterall?

radical

That genuinely made me laugh. Bravo! who would have thought things had got to that point of thinking.

Radical indeed

I agree OP, send an email to the actual person and complain about the person on your doorstep.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3756969-I-hope-you-never-have-children-Labour-and-self-id

This is an interesting read, if OP wants to get some insight into why it is that women are finding it so hard to vote Labour.

Women talking amongst themselves about current policy proposals is a bit too radical for you Pinky?
Dear lord, that's hilarious!

I think Pinky is currently googling looking for poll results that widely support self ID.

Duh, I'm an idiot, meant to put that on the "you must vote Labour" thread. Will do so now.

S/he may be gone a while in that case...

'As I said it would entirely depend on how the op phrased her stance, they’ve not said so therefore can’t really comment on wether the canvassers statement was disproportionately rude and/or extreme.'

No it wouldn't. Labour are trying to win an election here. It doesn't matter what they said or how they phrased it, the aim of canvassing is not to win points or call out bigots, it's to try and get more people to vote for the party and not alienate the ones who are already going to.
Getting your party in means winning the votes of people who don't agree with you about loads of things, some of which you consider fundamental issues. But you don't want to lie and you have integrity, so you move on politely when you get onto a difficult area.
You want to call people out, go on the Internet. You want to help your party win, don't lose votes for them.
Do Labour's new canvassers not realise that? Does Pinky not realise it? Jesus wept.

Pinky is currently sat on the bed of her disabled dd who is crying in pain, whilst I attempt to distract her, and distract myself with this site. That ok with you captainkirk?

Not everybody has the time and privilege to devote all their time to being an areshole online.

Not everybody has the time and privilege to devote all their time to being an areshole online.

It's a bloody good job i said nothing arsehole worthy then isn't it.

Would you like me to tell you what I'm doing, no, okay then no point in derailing??

You're doing all right on that score, Pinky - calling women right wing bigot lunatics online hardly covers you in glory.

Even the most Pro Self ID poll can only get 50% Pinkyu why is that do you think?

This is still unanswered if you need distraction?

Well, I can certainly see why some people prefer to #nodebate

Just not up to it.

Yup. That is about the level of debate we're used to from trans rights advocates

Are they ever up to it?