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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

'The word "woman" does not belong to you.'

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WomanBornNotWorn · 28/11/2019 20:27

Julie Miller @julie_trans has educated us. Which is nice.

'The word "woman" does not belong to you.'
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friedbeansandcheese · 29/11/2019 09:27

Just read www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7689097/Gender-fluid-ex-officer-hails-British-Army-one-best-LGBT-employers-UK.html

Dear God.

'Now my wife is completely fine with it. She understands that in the same way that she relaxes by taking her make-up off, I relax by putting my make-up on and painting my nails ... But it wasn't just my decision, I had my wife to consider. So we came to a compromise - and now half the week I'm Julie, which means I wear my wig and fake boobs, and the other half the week I'm a feminine man.'

Sounds like a shitty compromise. Poor wife.

'Surgery is not something Julie wants to consider. "I'm happy with my male body parts - but to be honest, it's not important when it comes to the way you present yourself," she said. "What people don't understand is that being transgender is about transitioning your gender, not your sex. I'm a trans woman because I want to present as the female gender – no one would know for sure what sex I was unless they had a look."

Delusional! Julie is clearly a bloke in a dress. Alice in Wonderland for a man in their 60s, wtaf??? Julie is a transvestite, not a transwoman, surely??

'Likewise, some masculine women like to wear baggy jeans and relax after a day at work with a pint of beer.' - I can fix this: 'Some women like to wear baggy jeans and relax after a day at work with a beer.'

I like to do that. Doesn't make me masculine, ffs.

'I had very feminine habits that I had to hide at work – like wearing eyeshadow and lipstick.'

Such a narrow-minded, stereotypical view of femininity!

Whole thing is bonkers. At least there are sensible comments on Twitter.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 29/11/2019 09:29

I have an ex who was fond of velvet jackets partly because the fabric feels so nice (and also the vintage ones come in lovely saturated colours). He and I used to borrow each other's clothes. If he were to call himself a woman that would be very silly, and I and any other woman intimately familiar with his cock and balls would be especially unlikely to take any such claims seriously.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 29/11/2019 09:33

Some women who don't look particularly masculine at all love a pint. Some women who're butch prefer gin. Some men like skirts and makeup and fancy martinis and are in fact still men.

I'm always a bit boggled about what a dull, narrow world the people who come up with this stuff seem to live in. Their adolescence must have been terribly boring.

BlouseAndSkirt · 29/11/2019 09:33

Come on, all you heterosexual men out there: tell us whether TWAW. Tell us how Transphobic you are because as straight, biological men, you don’t find yourself drawn to dating Trans Women who have not done any surgery etc.

Does the word woman only hold value with defending for women? Sad Angry

Thank heavens for feminism, eh.

Michelleoftheresistance · 29/11/2019 09:34

I'm a trans woman because I want to present as the female gender

Present however you like love, I'm all for abandoning gender restrictions. Wear and present whatever makes you happy, crack on with that.

But presenting as female (I'm not unpacking that) doesn't mean no one can tell your sex, or that you should be in female people's single sex spaces.

ChardonnaysDistantCousin · 29/11/2019 09:39

If I only exist in cyber space then how come I have a hangover? What did I have to drink last night? Cyber wine?

FrancisCrawford · 29/11/2019 09:47

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WomanBornNotWorn · 29/11/2019 09:53

I'm having a lovely cappuccino and reading the following Julie's . It's so relaxing! 😂

mobile.twitter.com/julie_trans/status/1200035952703549443

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WomanBornNotWorn · 29/11/2019 09:54

Finger glitch!! That should read 'the ratio following Julie's tweet'. I wish MN allowed us to edit our own posts ...

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titchy · 29/11/2019 10:03

If only Alan Turing and Oscar Wilde had realised that all they needed to do was identify as a woman, then they wouldn't have been breaking the law having sex with men...

mummmy2017 · 29/11/2019 10:03

Some people think if you tell people something is true, then it is .
However half the world are woman, and most of the men can tell the difference as well.

Dolorabelle · 29/11/2019 10:11

Well, she can FOTTFSOF&TFOSM

ScienceIsReal · 29/11/2019 10:23

Unicorns have been recognised as a real, living species for 50-100 years. You don't get too decide they're not real, society does.
Grass has been recognised as a type of shark for 50-100 years. You don't get to decide grass is a plant.
Circles have been recognised as irregular triangles for 50-100 years. You don't get to decide circles are round, bigot.

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 29/11/2019 10:29

The Flat Earth Society must be right, because believing it makes it real! Shock

rushes off to tell youngest boy not to go on that sailing trip Shock

Waterandlemonjuice · 29/11/2019 10:40

The twitter replies are hilarious

Annasgirl · 29/11/2019 10:45

The tragedy is that the acceptance of the BS that TWAW has resulted in a man (yes a man) who committed sex crimes against women being housed in a women's prison in Ireland because he decided to self identify as a woman.

I am so far beyond being nice and accepting and all the other BS on this topic that every day I want to climb to the top of the highest public building and shout stop.

Clymene · 29/11/2019 11:05

When women had no rights to work, vote, toilets or our own money, no men wanted to share the word woman with us.

Now that women have fought and died for those hard won rights, we have to share.

Well no, I'm not going to.

StrangeLookingParasite · 29/11/2019 15:07

The twitter replies are hilarious

'The word "woman" does not belong to you.'
Inebriati · 29/11/2019 15:45

Its pretty telling that Julie does not believe that women are members of society, but exist only to be told what to do by them.

LangCleg · 29/11/2019 16:23

Oh dear. I can't stop laughing.

LikeothersIamjustme · 29/11/2019 16:27

"Nowadays, all these acts of personal invasion and ridicule are regarded as transphobic hate incidents or are illegal because under the Equality Act 2010 I belong to the protected characteristic of “gender re-assignment”."
Is that true when Julie has no intention of removing the all hail the penis and is only a woman half the week?

Dolorabelle · 29/11/2019 18:01

Is that true when Julie has no intention of removing the all hail the penis and is only a woman half the week?

Whaaaaaa?

That is taking the piss even more than I originally realised.

She should just fuck off and then fuck off some more. And then fuck off to the far side of fuck.

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