An insurance company now wishes to lecture us

[JustHereWithMyPopcorn]

Aviva shared these lovely tweets today. I am actually insured with them but I will not be renewing. And they are not bothered by customers leaving, clearly.

You have neither read the thread or the twitter page, have you Cultoffortnite. Totally twisting or misunderstanding the whole issue.

I would be right behind a campaign about homophobia in sport. Or indeed one about trans people experiencing prejudice while playing sport. But not behind one that would end sport for women.

I would be right behind a campaign about homophobia in sport.

So would I, whole heartedly, if homophobia still means what I thought it means and what it's always meant.

But then I'm a lesbian who was called homophobic for saying lesbians were homosexual women, so I now have no idea what it means or what agenda is going on when it's used, and I'm not sure anyone else can be either.

I wouldn't trust Stonewall to run such a campaign at the moment.

I'll not be renewing my insurance with them, and I've told them so.
JL, M&S, now Aviva. Dear me, they really are rather stupid, aren't they?

It was definitely a coordinated effort: wonder if Yannis has too much to drink as well 🤷‍♀️

I was alerted to this Aviva debarcle yesterday, and we're taking steps accordingly by going through our policies and cancelling anything associated with Aviva.

What I find even more shocking than the campaign, is the arrogance of "Yannis", "Kate" etc on Twitter in their responses. Have you noticed, they are cowardly not responding to any questions or concerns about women's safety or identity.

I'd encourage everyone to spread the word and if you are as disgusted as many women are, ensure you cancel Aviva policies.

Interesting they are avoiding answering very simple questions about whether they support trans women competing in women's sport. It's all very well wearing the shoe laces, but any company promoting this kind of stuff needs to research the ideology behind it to ensure they agree with it and are willing to say so

They don’t have a set out answer to push at the press of a button for that...

Aviva sponsor Norwich football club, a premier league side, and used to be major sponsors of the rugby premier league. They are not without influence. I wonder what the Norwich women’s team think of their sponsors enthusiasm for having men play for or against them in the name of inclusivity.

Just looked them up. They are Norwich City Ladies. (Their is this weird thing where some clubs are ladies, others women. Perhaps, given the Clubs sponsor, they think the word woman has too elastic a meaning.)

I'm so annoyed I can't cancel my policy with them. Well at least the odds are in favour that it will pay out (this is not really good news obviously but maybe we will have the last fuck you laugh)

I can, and will, withdraw a pension fun I have with them. It will give me great pleasure. Let's keep asking them the difficult questions.

Haha. Pension fund, not fun. Although I might do something fun with some of it. And some will go to a women's charity.

I am getting adds for Aveda, the makeup on MN.

It made me do a double take as originally I thought it was an add for Aviva.

(Totally missing point of thread. Sorry.)

Given Jan Gooding's (trustee of Stonewall) previous employment with Aviva and Jan and the organisation getting all the rainbow awards over the years, I'm guessing it would be very difficult for Aviva to roll-back to admit that supporting LGBTQIA+ means supporting males in female sports, males in female spaces, males saying 'I am a woman' = male is a woman.

A tangled web they weave.

Your cognitive dissonance must be uncomfortable right now. But keep on attacking the people speaking out. I'm sure that'll play out well in the future

I cancelled my policy last night. They emailed today for feedback

Have fun won’t you?

I called Aviva and unbelievably, their customer service person claimed they knew nothing about the Twitter scandal. She went away for a very, very long time, came back and merely said she would take down "my concerns". It didn't feel like she was taking down anything. Then she said she was going to pass it to very same team who think it's ok to speak to customers so dreadfully as they are on Twitter at the moment, for men to come into women's changing rooms and for men to compete in women's sport.

So much for Aviva's "equality and fairness" campaign. What a load of tosh.

www.aviva.co.uk/help-and-support/contact-us/complaints/?source=AFC1&entry=71921&cmp=afl-car-ncb-ocb-&awc=3798_1575383348_fa7a9a8e2c9e20683e6ec2bff351291c

Don't forget - companies do have to put their complaints procedure in writing...

wow - just went to look at their twitter account and their pinned tweet is from the fragrant Katie (brackets my own):

We'll preach until everyone is welcomed as an equal (apart from women) ~ Katie

Every woman should cancel their policies, and end their cancellation letter with:

"We'll reject your preaching until every man gets out of women's spaces. And if you care so much about equality in sport, why aren't you preaching about men competing against women?"

Aviva should not play any role in our lives. We're going through everything - house, car, contents, health insurances and anything else where they might be hidden.

We'll reject your preaching until every man gets out of women's spaces.

Still baffled as to why an insurance company has managed to muddle 'sell insurance' with feeling entitled to 'preach' anything to anyone. It reminds me of the bar at university where a friend of mine having issues with his faith used to get blind drunk on a Friday night and then cling to random people as they passed, sobbing at them "are you saved ?"

Katie love. I never thought I was going to have to say this because until recently this was thought so obvious it wasn't necessary, but top of my list on requirements for insurers:

1. they're not pissed
2. they sell insurance not commit evangelism

Why can't these companies 'stand in solidarity' with something useful, like families with terminally ill children, or premature babies. Oh shit, I forgot. Its not woke enough, and isn't the flavour of the month.

Still baffled as to why an insurance company has managed to muddle 'sell insurance'

Somewhere in every major corporate now is a Diversity Manager who, out of through fear of being sued, fear of being accused of something unfair, desperation to appeal to some markets, and horror of finding protestors outside their door, the rest of the directors and shareholders have agreed to take on a senior role.

These Diversity Managers are the scourge of business today. Most senior people want nothing to do with them. But the Media department loves them, has probably worked with them before, and this is the new Social Responsibility efforts.

So someone like Stonewall will have people who go out to corporates and offer a link up, the Diversity Managers of the world are doing the same, and they all live in this crazy bubble of preaching. Anyone who disagrees with them is kicked out, or made to look bad.

It's the latest bandwagon. Advertising agencies everywhere are telling corporations (I've sat in on meetings, I've heard it) that now the message to the public shouldn't be about the money you make, it's about the good to you do in society. So push and push and shove your campaigns down everyone's throats.

The way Aviva are behaving on Twitter is identical to Channel 4's attitude, have you noticed? "We are right, we don't care about anyone who doesn't agree with us, don't watch us then, don't buy our policies, we don't give a damn."

So hit them where it hurts.