Maya Forstater court case

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Sorry to link to the DM but they've covered Maya Forstater's upcoming court case here:
https://mol.im/a/7683207.

Maya's account of events is here and her post links to updates about the case: https://medium.com/@MForstater/i-lost-my-job-for-speaking-up-about-womens-rights-2af2186ae84

Do you think there is a parallel universe somewhere of TRAs tweeting about this believing their side is magnificent and winning?

Oh this couldn't be more perfect

Clair: “People talking generally includes me. No one has specifically talked about my genitals yet but the person live tweeting this case has dead named me over lunch.”
Anya Palmer: “People talking generally about not wanting to share spaces with men because of trauma aren’t talking about your genitals.”

Clair sounds more bonkers than Luke.

*Pulls up a chair

Do you think there is a parallel universe somewhere of TRAs tweeting about this believing their side is magnificent and winning?

No. I think they are doing everything possible to ignore it.

Maya is obsessed with penis s

Wow

Thanks for the updates Pygmy

Anya Palmer: “People talking generally about not wanting to share spaces with men because of trauma aren’t talking about your genitals.”

They don't tend to be talking about genitals, at all. They're talking about male pattern behaviour.

many thanks PygmyHippoBob

I was hoping for more sunlight, I wasn't quite expecting this number of people falling over themselves to open the curtains.

Clair says Clair hasn’t read the documents referred to in Clair ’s witness statement

FFS where do they find these people?

Clair sounds brilliant. I hope they is allowed to wax lyrical indefinitely.

Are these adult people or what 🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

FFS where do they find these people?

In positions of power.

Thanks for the updates.
Ah the old 'obsessed with genitals' trope wheeled out.

Because in between my job, looking after my kids/mother/house I like nothing better than to lounge about pondering others' genitals. As do all women.

Anya: “Maya wasn’t thinking about you when she tweeted about manels [all male panels]. You haven’t taken a pledge not to appear on manels. So her tweet wasn’t directed at you. Nonsense to suggest she tweeting to get at you.
C: being incredibly rude and dismissive to Anya, talking over Anya.
C is a huge contrast to Kristina this morning. Kristina came across as an admirable, thoughtful person with true compassion and empathy for women.

So like a witness has a statement with documents in it but the witness didn’t read documents in their own witness statement

Is that usual ?

so is Clair on the stand because Clair has taken general points made by Maya as personal attacks?

Crikey. The judge could really go to town on that. Driven out of your job by an angry they person who thinks nothing of behaving like an arse in a tribunal. How extraordinarily embarrassing that they put this loose cannon with no filters up to maintain the dignity of trans people. Compare and contrast with Kristina Harrison

And the HR director gives absolutely no though whatsoever to Maya's rights, all he wants to do is appease this angry person and believes he has the moral high ground to do that.

A quick digress, sorry. Are Jolyon and Clair connected at all (other than the obvious) as they both seem to specialise in 'tax'?

Wow, in the absence of belief that any organisation would employ such a poor legal team, they really must be clutching at straws if these are the best witnesses they can bring. They’re gonna get chewed.

Fancy not reading your own witness statement. I can’t believe anybody would turn up to court not even having read that. It beggers belief. I bet their legal counsel are tearing their hair out. I hope it’s costing a packet.

This shitshow is a qualified and cambridge-educated barrister who is more than fully aware of legal procedure. ‘I didn’t read the documents’. Well why the fuck did you sign the witness statement then you utter utter incompetent idiot?