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Maya Forstater court case

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Bardonnay · 14/11/2019 06:14

Sorry to link to the DM but they've covered Maya Forstater's upcoming court case here:
https://mol.im/a/7683207.

Maya's account of events is here and her post links to updates about the case: https://medium.com/@MForstater/i-lost-my-job-for-speaking-up-about-womens-rights-2af2186ae84

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BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 18/11/2019 12:59

wildwoman is done for the day

Flowers

thank you

but boo! it's going to run into the new year. I'm gripped. HOW WILL IT END?

and they can't just introduce a character like CQ and shut up shop. Like a PP, I am LITERALLY AGOG

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 18/11/2019 12:59

Has the definition of "street violence" changed?

Perhaps it now means "female who wants to retain her hard won rights to privacy, dignity and body autonomy"?

That's probably it. You monsters.

HavelockVetinari · 18/11/2019 12:59

I cannot believe y'all have a street violence wing and I never even suspected! Shock

Datun · 18/11/2019 12:59

Please, please, please let the street violence be stickers with razor blades behind them. Together with the photo that someone posted of a different person entirely.

CaveMum · 18/11/2019 13:01

So, this Street Violence Wing, I’m feeling left out. Is there a uniform? I’m imagining lots of women dressed as Peaky Blinders, either that or head to toe Boden.

MonkeyToesOfDoom · 18/11/2019 13:01

street violence

In this case the definition is
"Lesbians carrying lawn chairs and sitting on them in an intimidating manner. Here is often pizza or copious amounts of tea involved"

GrinitchSpinach · 18/11/2019 13:03

Oh wow, sounds like Barracker's instaclassic "pronouns are..." post got a (misinterpreted) mention. I do wish someone would read it out in court.

Datun · 18/11/2019 13:04

and comparing the use of pronouns to date rape

This is the Rohypnol article. I hope to God they are allowed to read it out loud.

I found it objectionable that trans rights were linked with breaches of child safeguarding.

What, like letting 14-year-old boys share facilities with 10-year-old girls without telling their parents, at girl guides?

I really hope all these issues get thoroughly aired.

Many transactivists are under the impression that if they say they object to something, people stop talking about it. But that's actually called terf blocker.

LangCleg · 18/11/2019 13:04

I found it objectionable that trans rights were linked with breaches of child safeguarding.

Can't think where we've heard that before. If you don't want your rights movement to be linked with breaches of child safeguarding, ensure your materials are Working Together compliant. If they're not - and they are not - fucking well change them.

Michelleoftheresistance · 18/11/2019 13:04

I'll bet you're right and it's the stickers.

Could it really be that they're going to request that a judge, familiar with British law, perceive placing stickers with a dictionary definition of women in public places in protest as street violence in a court full of journalists?

LangCleg · 18/11/2019 13:06

I'll bet you're right and it's the stickers.

I really want Sticker Woman to be the evil violent vigilante!

OvaHere · 18/11/2019 13:08

So, this Street Violence Wing, I’m feeling left out. Is there a uniform? I’m imagining lots of women dressed as Peaky Blinders, either that or head to toe Boden.

It's the Mumsnet scarf isn't it? Scarf by day, weapon by night.

Callmejudith · 18/11/2019 13:08

I cannot believe they have broken for lunch at such a pivotal moment. PLEASE can someone take up the live tweeting this afternoon?

Butterisbest · 18/11/2019 13:08

OldCrone
How do we know whether these are male women or female women?
This could be a way of referring to men that identify as women

OvaHere · 18/11/2019 13:09

Can't think where we've heard that before. If you don't want your rights movement to be linked with breaches of child safeguarding, ensure your materials are Working Together compliant. If they're not - and they are not - fucking well change them.

Prism?

GCAcademic · 18/11/2019 13:09

I think the Sticker Woman division must be the street violence vanguard in the GC movement.

Ah, of course. Violence by adhesive. As we know, the Battle of Brighton Beach involved mods and rockers violently stickering each other with dictionary definitions.

GrinitchSpinach · 18/11/2019 13:09

Ha, snap Datun. Grin

Is anyone tweeting the afternoon session?

Michelleoftheresistance · 18/11/2019 13:10

I noticed that Datun

The perceived issue isn't whether it was untrue, whether harm was caused to others or where responsibility to address it should lie - there is no interest in this part. The perceived issue and injury is the bad PR and insult to feelings.

OvaHere · 18/11/2019 13:10

I cannot believe they have broken for lunch at such a pivotal moment. PLEASE can someone take up the live tweeting this afternoon?

@PygmyHippoBob any chance you can tweet/update on MN or do you know anyone else there who will be doing so?

OvaHere · 18/11/2019 13:12

Ah, of course. Violence by adhesive. As we know, the Battle of Brighton Beach involved mods and rockers violently stickering each other with dictionary definitions.
Grin Grin Grin

Floisme · 18/11/2019 13:12

Jolyon Maugham Tweeted about Karen White. I found it objectionable.
Sorry for derail and I'm struggling to keep up but.... have I just seen Jolyon Maugham being accused of wrongthink? Shock

Thanks for the thread and the live tweeting. Cake

LangCleg · 18/11/2019 13:13

Prism?

Um... I was thinking of this morning and another - stricken, then unstricken - thread!

MadamBatty · 18/11/2019 13:13

Is the street violence like the women’s army from the 2 Ronnie...the worm
Has turned?

You’re all of pack of wagons you never even told me about it

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 18/11/2019 13:13

Thank fuck Clair’s on the case

I am using Marxian value theory to critique the assumptions of the OECD's "Base Erosion and Profit Shifting" process and to analyse the global corporate tax system more generally. My research focuses on the role played by materially unproductive labour, intellectual property, fiduciary relations and transnational corporate ontology in the shaping of the state-capital relation in twenty-first century capitalism

Is it just me who can’t get an image of a 17th century French aristocrat out of their mind’s eye? I’m going to go all Camille Paglia in a minute and say we’re too decadent to survive

HandsOffMyRights · 18/11/2019 13:16

Thank you for the tweets and updates.

At least we have new branding for our alternative to 'Always' sanitary towels - 'Street Violence with Wings'.