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Maya Forstater court case

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Bardonnay · 14/11/2019 06:14

Sorry to link to the DM but they've covered Maya Forstater's upcoming court case here:
https://mol.im/a/7683207.

Maya's account of events is here and her post links to updates about the case: https://medium.com/@MForstater/i-lost-my-job-for-speaking-up-about-womens-rights-2af2186ae84

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littlbrowndog · 18/11/2019 12:28

Captain 😂😂😂

Waterl00 · 18/11/2019 12:28

www.cgdev.org/staff/luke-easley

BoreOfWhabylon · 18/11/2019 12:30

Thread unroll stopped but new tweets can be seen here

twitter.com/wwwritingclub/with_replies

OvaHere · 18/11/2019 12:30

Disappointing lack of beard Water

Note to Luke in case of future tribunals - a beard changes everything. They have magical properties.

PreseaCombatir · 18/11/2019 12:32

In his own reality it's going really well.
😂 👏

definitelygc · 18/11/2019 12:32

I love that he's American as well and is clearly arrogant enough to think their mad bullshit can just be ported over here. Welcome to the British justice system dude, you are getting eaten alive.

BoreOfWhabylon · 18/11/2019 12:33

Looks to me like Luke has been brought over from USA specifically for this case?

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 18/11/2019 12:35

I hope they spent a lot of money getting Luke involved.

BoreOfWhabylon · 18/11/2019 12:35

CC - your orgs case is that MF’s view is so incompatible with trans rights that her beliefs are not protected and CGD shouldn’t even have to answer a discrim case?

RW - [repeats that they’re don’t distinguish sex & gender] All 3 staff who complained were women...

BoreOfWhabylon · 18/11/2019 12:35

CC - [repeats question] MF has no right to express these views and expect any employment protections. That’s your case, right?

RW - [flounders] I’m not an attorney, can’t weigh in on that. That’s not my testimony. I’ll leave that to my team.

CC - no further questions

Whatisthisfuckery · 18/11/2019 12:37

Sunlight!

Placemaking to catch up later.

PygmyHippoBob · 18/11/2019 12:37

Clair Quentin is giving evidence.

CQ’s witness statement states “The ‘gender critical’ movement has a street violence wing”
Guys why didn’t you tell me about the street violence wing? Feeling left out Sad I love marching around in uniform.

OvaHere · 18/11/2019 12:37

RW - [repeats that they’re don’t distinguish sex & gender] All 3 staff who complained were women

Which begs the question of course...what is a woman?

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 18/11/2019 12:38

It's not even a movement, isn't it weird that it keeps being misrepresented as a movement.

MrsSnippyPants · 18/11/2019 12:38

A street violence wing?! Do they mean we walk around tutting loudly?!
Grin

littlbrowndog · 18/11/2019 12:39

Street violence wing. Lols all of them

stillathing · 18/11/2019 12:39

Sorry not read from the start.... Has anyone quoted the bit where he said Maya's views (ie a grasp on reality) were against their "corporate values?"

OvaHere · 18/11/2019 12:39

CQ’s witness statement states “The ‘gender critical’ movement has a street violence wing”

WTF! Why was I not informed of the Mumsnet Massive? I'd have dug out my old Doc Martens.

nauticant · 18/11/2019 12:39

but it implies that people living really fucking shitty lives, syrian refugees who have watched their child's body wash up on a Greek beach, victims of child sexual exploitation, political prisoners have also chosen their realities

It's simply the Just World Hypothesis. But presented in a post-modern form we're all supposed to swallow without question.

DuMondeB · 18/11/2019 12:40

Street violence? Haven’t been involved in that since...

... well,

ever.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 18/11/2019 12:41

'CQ’s witness statement states “The ‘gender critical’ movement has a street violence wing”'

Test that in court! Yeah baby!

FWRLurker · 18/11/2019 12:42

Amazed to hear that Rachel D self-ID as black would be no problem. Maybe they should ask some black members of staff what they think about it though. Council should have gone on to ask if Rachel D would be eligible for awards / grants set aside for black employees.

The insanity It’s all out there now if anyone reads the full account. Yet I’m positive that there will be plenty of cherry picking quotes / ignoring the meat of the matter from certain journalists. Likely will focus only on the “scaremongering” parts.

littlbrowndog · 18/11/2019 12:42

Fuckers the whole lot of you doing street violence without me 🤷‍♀️

OvaHere · 18/11/2019 12:43

Is Clair a them?

Note that Clair has a better beard game than Luke so maybe this will be easier for them.

Melioration · 18/11/2019 12:43

I am on tenterhooks waiting to learn about the street violence Shock