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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Times article - Aimee Challenor suspended

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BessyK · 09/11/2019 19:33

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/transgender-campaigner-suspended-by-lib-dems-t8wtlp2j0
Article in this evenings online edition

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HerLadySheep · 10/11/2019 07:25

I have actually met AC and in real life she is extremely odd, in a skin crawling, wouldn't leave your children with them type of way.
She has been involved the the local People's Vote rally's but seems to held at arms length by the local Lib Dem's who seem like decent enough folk.
Hopefully she get some help with the car crash that is her life.

GrapefruitsAreNotTheOnlyFruit · 10/11/2019 09:11

I joined the Lib Dems recently and there was a question on the membership form with, Which Gender do you identify with?

I think I wrote, Don't want to answer and then a small essay in the comments about the application process to say that they should just be asking which sex people are and can have another question later to ask if people are transgender. I also said that I had no gender identity. I was just biologically female.

Anyway no one blocked me from joining or refused my cash.

My opinion is that everyone should join the party that more or less fits their overall political views and then work at changing it from the inside to better represent women's rights. Because none of them seem to be great at that.

MrsSnippyPants · 10/11/2019 09:50

I admire your optimism Grapefruit but thousands of women have been trying to change parties from the inside and have got nowhere. If it was that easy this would all be fixed and women would be listened to.

teawamutu · 10/11/2019 09:56

Also, once you're in and they have your money they can choose to read it as having your support.

I can do that for some issues, but on something as fundamental as this I am no longer prepared to hold my nose.

Justhadathought · 10/11/2019 09:57

My opinion is that everyone should join the party that more or less fits their overall political views and then work at changing it from the inside to better represent women's rights. Because none of them seem to be great at that

i heard the exact same from a long time Labour party activist a few days ago.......she knew she was at odds with the party line on gender politics ( & clearly afraid to speak out openly about it), but was staying out of habit and long term membership. If even long term, and prominent, members cannot speak out and have an impact on the direction of travel, then can't see what hope a newbie will have.

You'll most likely find yourself having to watch what what you say, and who you say it to.

Justhadathought · 10/11/2019 10:00

Much as it pains me to say this, I think on self ID Boris is our best hope. Or SNP if you're in Scotland

You don't have to vote for anyone. You could join the club that wants to vote, but will have to resort, instead, to spoiling their ballot.

ArranUpsideDown · 10/11/2019 10:31

The "oops someone hacked my account" excuse is getting a bit old.

Particularly when some people have a past with Anon and emphasise their cyber security and hacking skills.

teawamutu · 10/11/2019 11:31

Yes, funny that.

BarbaraStrozzi · 10/11/2019 11:33

It was firmly tongue-in-cheek, Arran. Of course this guy knows what he's doing. There was a scandal about this stuff a year ago, which he must have known about, but he didn't come out with the hacking excuse then. It's only now, when his marriage to the fragrant Aimee (British political joke about disgraced MP and member of the House of Lords Jeffrey Archer, for those of our twitter monitors who are hard of thinking - waves cheerfully) is getting closer and hence presumably his British citizenship application, together with Aimee's almost burgeoning but now cruelly curtailed political career (see yesterday's Times) that he's come out with the "hacked account" excuse.

I do hope Aimee gets some decent, supportive therapy. To have a father who is a paedophile and child rapist (and into adult baby stuff) then to seek out a husband-to-be who fantasizes about exactly the same stuff... Well, that's the mark of someone severely traumatised by their childhood, I would say (and something I think many of us have seen played out on the Relationships Boards here). Aimee, LTB and set your standards higher.

GrapefruitsAreNotTheOnlyFruit · 10/11/2019 11:59

Well I think there is a reason TRA activists aren't keen on gender critical women joining their parties. That is because if enough of us signed up and got organised we could influence policy.

Also with the Lib Dems party members can sign up to policy groups and help decide policy directly. So for people with the time that could be a route to affect change.

GeordieTerf · 10/11/2019 12:56

Just to be clear: was Aimee kicked out, suspended, or have they left voluntarily?

NotTerfNorCis · 10/11/2019 16:30

If someone HAD hacked his account, why didn't he delete the posts as soon as he got control back? That's what most people would have done. Or if he couldn't get it back, he could have reported the posts to Twitter.

ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 10/11/2019 16:31

Also with the Lib Dems party members can sign up to policy groups and help decide policy directly. So for people with the time that could be a route to affect change.

Or a good reason to back away from a party that prone to entryism?

crosstalk · 10/11/2019 17:48

Now will not be voting LibDem

NonnyMouse1337 · 10/11/2019 18:23

One would hope the SNP wouldn't be silly enough to actually think that GE votes for them will automatically translate into an endorsement for a referendum. Of course they have to say that publicly to keep Indy supporters hopeful and happy. There's no reason to stop a significant chunk of those who might vote SNP at the GE to vote No in any Indy referendum.

I support Scottish independence but depending on the context, I tend to vote tactically. I agree that the positions of all the political parties at the moment on women's rights is just dire. I think I will vote SNP because at least some of them have been speaking out against trans ideology. I'm sure the TRAs would love to see them gone and replaced with more compliant MPs.

theflushedzebra · 10/11/2019 22:47

Everyone in the relevant constituencies should vote for Joanna Cherry and Joan MacFarlane They are a force for women.

Plus, anyone else who knows they have a GC MP/candidate - vote for them!

Galvantula · 11/11/2019 09:37

My SNP MP has had his face all over tv regarding Brexity stuff recently, but didn't respond to any queries i sent him about the UK consultation last year. I might try getting in touch again.

WB11097 · 15/11/2019 12:26

As far as I’m aware, Nathaniel Knight has NOT claimed his Twitter account was hacked or that the tweets weren't his. That's Aimee speaking.

Put the address of Nathaniel’s Fur Affinity account (which he’s been scrubbing) into the search field on www.archive.org.

www.furaffinity.net/user/kharonalpua/

Look at his account as it was on 1st May 2015.

There it is in black-and-white.

Nathaniel’s stories are catalogued under his “Gallery” tab, and someone commenting on the, “Wolf's Sexual Adventure: 01 - Scyther Strikes”, story even calls him out for using a 10-year-old character.

I’d recommend the Liberal Democrats take a long close look at Nathaniel’s response to that comment, it’s quite revealing.

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