Lib Dems actively deterring GC women

[DontBuyANewMumCashmere]

Today I emailed the Lib Dems expressing an interest in joining their party.

I stated no one should receive discrimination or abuse for their transgender status but explained that I am GC and I asked if there was room for GC women in the party.

I received the following response:
Thank you for getting in touch. Whilst we appreciate your interest in joining, you should be aware that the Liberal Democrats are a trans inclusive party, and we have made it clear that we fully behind trans communities. As liberals we champion everyone’s right to live the life they want. By the sounds of your email it appears that your values are not aligned with ours so we are probably not the right the party for you.

I am flabbergasted. I didn't expect that I would have to believe that humans can change biological sex in order to be a member of the Lib Dems.

I am so disappointed. I was going to vote for them in the GE (passionate Remainer) but I cannot if this is their response.

There is no one to vote for. I am lost.

@DontBuyANewMumCashmere - I've just sent you a DM. Could you take a quick look?

It was dead quiet when I went in to spoil and you could clearly hear my little pencil going scratch-scritch-scritch for far longer than it takes to make a cross. Consider taking a biro or a felt tip - quieter and easier to read!

Blackopal Yes - I think all parties will concentrate on the marginal seats and encourage members from both rock solid and no-hoper constituencies to help with the former during elections.

To be blunt, it is about numbers on the day and ensuring as many of your supporters as possible vote.

Cwg1 thankbyou for the reply.
Makes sense I suppose, although annoying when lying in wait with Questions with a capital Q!

Another following with interest.

I've reluctantly decided that I'm going to have to spoil my ballot paper. I would never not exercise my right to vote but there is no-one I can vote for.

I feel so sad for DD though, her first opportunity to vote and this is the shitshow she's faced with.

What if the parties decide that they will ALL effectively disenfranchise women by pushing away anyone who knows what a woman is -- from office, from political activism and by deterring them from voting?

It's so easily done, it seems - 'Don't believe males can be women? No room for you in this party, sorry.'

I would never not exercise my right to vote but there is no-one I can vote for.

The right to vote also includes the right to deface your Ballot.

I've voted for a centre left or more left wing party my entire life.

I'll be spoiling my ballot paper this election.

I did briefly consider voting Lib Dem but that message from them has convinced me not to

I was all set to vote LibDem for remain reasons. But i will not vote for them now. I don't think they would have won in my area, we're marginal between tories and Labour.

I am going to write to my Lib Candidate and ask for their views. Our previous MP was a closet GC but has stepped down. It will be between tories and lib dems here. I doubt Labour will get much.

Fingers crossed I don't get burned at the stake...

I just got canvassed and I said 'I won't be supporting you because the lib dems have been very clear that they don't want the votes of GC feminists' and she said, 'OK' and left.

Contact the local party and tell them how disappointing their canvasser was?

No read all of this yet - just wanted to say that spoiling a vote has to be done a certain way otherwise it's doesn't get counted in any way

We are 50% of the electorate. Maybe there's a need for us to form a "neutral" party, one where the candidates will withhold the female vote, or vote with the party that best supports "women's rights" depending on what is being debated. Allowing proper scrutiny of laws and regulations that do not compromise women's rights, allowing proper debate.
for those who do not feel that any party represents womens rights adequately, time to make them aware that they will be potentially losing a significant amount of votes.
Also mass boycotting of organisations that do not promote appropriate service provision. I believe that it is identified that women make a significant amount of financial decisions.
Apologies, thinking off the top of my head, but don't want to not vote, in memory of my g.grandmother a suffragette!
Time to fight back??

Where are WEP in all of this? Did they become handmaidens as well?

Herocomplex WEP (women's electoral party?) never heard of them....
do you have any info?

Ah ok, women's equality party. First search bought up security protocol!!

We are 50% of the electorate. Maybe there's a need for us to form a "neutral" party, one where the candidates will withhold the female vote, or vote with the party that best supports "women's rights" depending on what is being debated.

Somehow parties like this seem to always end up making more policy statements.

My country just had an election. The Greens have been talking about the environment as an existential crises a they ought, and clearly they also would need to talk about related economic questions. The environment is a major concern here across many political lines.

However this election they also decided to take all the most contentions and clearly partisan political issues they could find and push them as campaign issues, including gender ideology, abortion, sex as work, etc, and push them as platform policy.

well unless there's an alternative in my area to Conservatives, Labour, Greens or LibDems I shall definitely be spoiling my ballot.
I wouldn't dream of not turning up to vote.

I have lived in my home for over four years and have never once had a anyone knock on my door from a political party.
Is it something that happens in areas with less safe seats?

Do you know how long it takes for 2 people to knock on 100 doors (good practice is to canvas in pairs)?

If a constitutency which has a strong ld presence has only 50 active members for campaigning, then how many doors do you think 25 pairs can knock on in a 2hr session?

Remember that 25 pairs are rarely going to be available for every Canvassing session. Now think about how many Canvassing sessions the local party can organise in a week. Realistically you might get them out for 2 or 3 hours on weekend (no one really wants to do much more than that) and maybe twice during the week (and that'll be harder in December with the dark and cold).

If you assume you can knock on one door every 5 mins (and that's very very optimistic) that's 12 doors per pair per hour. If all 25 pairs turn out (that's very very optimistic) that's 300 doors per hour.

Realistically in reality you are more likely to be closer to 150 doors as a top whack unless your activists are really fanatical.

Across a week assuming that rate that's 150 x 6 hours. That's 450 doors.

The campaign period is 6 weeks so that brings you up to 2700 doors.

There are around 42,000 households in my constituency.

That's why no one is knocking on your door because the logistics of knocking on every door in a constituency are crazy. Just getting leaflets hand delivered to everyone is a feat in itself.

This is why generally speaking only target seats will be canvassed in any great amount with activists called in from neighbouring constituencies rather than doing every constituency.

This is where Labour has a big advantage as they have so many more activists than either the Lib Dems or the Conservatives.

It frustrates me when people complain that no one ever knocks on their door. There is a legitimate reason that it's not really viable and its far more productive for all parties to run weekly street stalls in central locations.

Ah ok, women's equality party. First search bought up security protocol!!

Ah WEP... I think there might be quite a few MNers who credit them with their awareness of the problems with trans ideology. It was their stated belief that a violent male prisoner who was ‘living as a woman’ should be able to move to a women’s prison that made a lot of us go WTF?????

I'm in a highly marginal Labour / Conservative constituency. I've always voted and never for the Tories. For the first time in my life I'm considering whether a Tory government with a small majority would be preferable to Labour or a Lib / Lab / SNP coalition but doubt I could actually vote Conservative. I was considering voting for the Lib Dems in order to register my support for a second referendum but cannot do so given their attitude to women. If I cannot support any of the parties standing, unless I can establish that any of the actual candidates are GC, I will spoil my vote but explain why. It is so frustrating. How on earth has this point been reached?

Well, that's me very thoroughly told Red!
Thank you for your explanation.

I wasn't complaining, more interested as so many people refer to door knockers but I havent ever had one.

Wow, WOMEN ARE FECKING PEOPLE. We're.not dogs in need of training, contrary to growing belief.

I was certain I was going to vote for them in the upcoming election. I just can't do that now. I'm now begrudgingly voting labour... I think.

begrudgingly voting labour.

If you do it's 100% certain self ID will be written into law and you and your children's rights will never be the same again.