Men who dislike MN

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This is not a TAAT, as in it's not specifically about, only prompted by a DH in AIBU who is patronising about MN and I thought the points raised would be interesting to discuss here in general.

IME, men who are patronising, dismissive, and make just generally hate filled and revolting comment about MN/MNers are basically misogynists who dislike women and probably feel threatened.

Interested to hear others thoughts, so I can express mine better! That sounds like a journalist, I'm not as you can see from my history and name!

For fucks sake - anyone minimising this, what do you think about the snakes with tits comment?

Would you be happy with your DH/DP - or your DSs saying this about women?

Apart from the laughs on here, there is lots and lots of intelligent advice and support and it infuriates me when we are dismissed by men. I had a particular tricky problem at the weekend I mentioned to DH and his first question was "what does MN say to do?" He has also used it as a SAHD for advice on our DC with SN. This isn't particularly note worthy just because he is a man, it's just showing that he respects MNers - women - for their knowledge and opinions (and being funny as fuck) in general.

I simply couldn't share my life - or condone his attitudes/behaviour to my children - with such a dismissive, patronising, sexist fuckwit.

PS Mumsnet solved my problem for me - of course they did!

FFS, re above, I mean to say that if MN don't delete it as being too TAATy I was going to post my comment I made earlier on a thread to explain my thinking a little more!

Ate you just talking to yourself because everyone ignored you on the other thread ?

I haven't seen the particular comments but it strikes me that men who hate mumsnet are extremely angry that posters here refuse to mother them. Refuse to pander to their every whim.

They do not seem to understand that just because we are somebody's mother does not mean we are their mother. That we are not required to spare them a second thought. That we are free to ignore them, disagree with them, not give a shit about them. This makes them extraordinarily angry. They have not progressed beyond the toddler stage.

There are a couple of male posters on MN who are very obviously misogynistic dicks.

As I said @rainbowconfetti I thought the points raised would be interesting to discuss here in general.

Perhaps you could read my post properly and a make a useful comment to contribute to the thread?

I don't need to read it again. You posted it in the other thread.

Oh jacques you've summoned them now. I look forward to the "as a man" posts!

Mumsnet is a litmus test for who is or isn't a misogynist. People (men and women sadly) who dismiss it generally don't have a high opinion of women.

Who cares what they think though? This site is a treasure. It would be worse if men were trying to muscle their way in.

Rainbow you do realise this is the FWR section? Do you have a problem with me wanting advice specifically from this group?

Perhaps you should return to the other thread if you don't want to discuss it intelligently here?

I have no problem. The fact that you left the thread and made another on this section to gather the support you needed is telling though.

Not a thing I have ever done.

Not seen the thread mentioned so this is a general response.

My DH knows I post on Mumsnet and I often read witty posts aloud to him.

T’other day he told me he ended up here after googling for a recipe (he does all the cooking in our house) and not only did the recipe turn out great but he was very amused that it was posted in response to a GF!

I love MN. I’d not used it for parenting stuff (despite my eldest being 19) but knew it existed because I’d read about the politician biscuit questions. It’s only after FWR sucked me in that I realised that MN biscuits aren’t quite what they are depicted as in news media!

So, I don’t completely judge people who don’t realise how wide reaching the conversation gets here, the front page articles certainly don’t reflect the depth of experience and camaraderie you find on the forums.

A person that actually hate-reads Mumsnet is either full of teen angst or, yes, a bit of misogynist. Anyone that pays attention can see that a range of opinions are shared, It’s not as if we all have the exact same agenda (except when it comes to LTB towards abusive men, that’s generally unanimous. Maybe that’s the bit that makes Mumsnet so offensive?)

Yes I agree on MN there is very much a culture of support and empowerment for women to leave abusive relationships. Naturally this threatens men who are abusive.

I think that those men are misogynistic generally and are abusive to women as a group (comments about tits etc etc etc) absolutely hold these attitudes towards their female partners (even if they don't display them specifically/individually against their partner) and I would find it abusive if my DH therefore displayed these traits in any form towards me (and by extension my DDs).

I just think some guys don’t like women talking and having opinions
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I just think some guys don’t like women talking and having opinions

This.

I treat MN in RL very much like fight club and don't tell people I'm on here as a general rule. People can latch on to it's reputation of being a 'nest of vipers' and 'full of man hating feminazis' and discredit anything said here if they know MN is the source. I however have found my people

Occasionally I have stumbled across threads on 'men's' forums (cars, football, Reddit) that are vomit inducinglg women hating. Similarly once people start frothing on aibu it can becime a collective scream of ltb for a relatively minor infraction sometimes. Such is the internet.

If these men are so insecure they have to attack a forum as a whole and blanket categorise us in a negative way, that's their problem. It won't shut us up

defend men who refer to women as snakes with tits

Wow really?

There is a long history of certain types/groups of men who seem very threatened by Mumsnet. F4J, MRAs, naafi, pistonheads... they've all done it - joined MN just to troll or to give the women a good talking to. They often seem surprised - affronted, even - to find the women here argue back.

It must be the female dominated support network, and the plethora of strong, intelligent women who post here that they find discombobulating

And Jacques is correct.

I've been here a very short time but have heard MN mentioned on many other sites. When men mention it it tends to be in a dismissive manner, referring to it as a haven for (apologies if this word is forbidden) feminazis. I haven't had that impression at all. So much intelligent debate and thoughts shared here, I regret not joining sooner. Some men probably don't like that this site goes against the patriarchy we live in, and points out a lot of hypocrisy.

Using my superb investigative skills ( I just found that thread - men using misogynistic language about women "for a larf."

so original.

I married a great man - and actually, being on Mumsnet all these years has made me realise just how great he is. He never uses misogynistic language about women, ever. He pulls our sons up straight away too - if he ever catches them saying disrespectful stuff.

I rarely venture onto AIBU these days. Too many twats. Too many women there who will leap to the defence of some really appalling behaviour by men - and say stuff like "mumsnet hates men"

Strong women scare weak men.

3rd rule of misogyny: Women speaking for themselves are exclusionary and selfish.

4th rule of misogyny: Women's opinions are violence against men thus male violence against women is justified.

5th rule of misogyny: WATM! Women and Feminism must be useful to men or they are worthless.

We do speak for ourselves, we have opinions, we centre women more than any other forum...
Are you really surprised that misogynists hate MN? For them, at best MN is something to be ignored or ridiculed, at worst something to be hated.

I started to read that thread and then figured life is too short and it's probably a windup anyway. Who cares what a bunch of random men think?

However, I have seen a good few threads I've the years in relationships where women who are treated badly or abused are later accused of letting Mumsnet fill their head with ideas once they decide enough is enough.

On a different note, I've really noticed an upturn in the "ah it's just men, they can't help themselves" kind of posts. And they call feminists man haters

I didn't come to MN for a long time because I had an idea about it based only on what I had read or heard about it. I didn't think it was for me. I think my idea of it was closer to what the dreaded Netmums is in reality.

I love MN but people who haven't experienced it for themselves don't know what they are talking about. Many people who talk disparagingly about it are possibly misogynistic and have totally the wrong idea about what it's all about.

Strong women pretending to be ditsy mummies. All hail the Female.

They get really really angry when their wives start talking about them and they get told to LTB.

It's no wonder they hate us.