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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Transgender people supporting adult human females?

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FemaleAndLearning · 12/10/2019 17:02

Hi
I was wondering who in the transgender community supports the definition of woman as adult human female?
Miranda Yardley, Fionne Orlando, Rose Dawn?

I ask because the debate for retaining single sex spaces and keeping sex as a protected characteristic is often perceived as 'them and us' and I know this not to be true. I would like some examples to fire off when I get into discussions.

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LangCleg · 13/10/2019 22:25

one of the things that was mentioned recently is how GC people and transsexuals have a lot of common ground

I wouldn't say a lot. I'd say, as Pencils did, any agreement is pretty much limited to opposing pure self-ID and queer theory. Otherwise, we're entirely at odds. Opposing XY persons colonising the rights, spaces and ontology of XX persons, as most of us do, does not differentiate between XY persons.

comes of as very disingenuous

No, Pencils was perfectly clear. Try a different word.

all women or just cis women

Please don't arrive here and use the offensive term "cis" about us. It's against the rules we all have to abide by. You might like to check them out as breaking them three times in a six week period may result in a suspension of posting privileges.

AnyOldPrion · 13/10/2019 22:38

Fionne Orlander is clear that he is male. He uses male public toilets, apparently rather to the bemusement of some of the other men.

PencilsInSpace · 14/10/2019 00:33

Thank you for the perfect example of why only strategic alliances are possible (or at least sensible), Caldenzie.

No, Pencils was perfectly clear.

Thank you Lang, I thought I was.

What's disingenuous is saying you sympathise with all the struggles we face while at the same time insisting that we say you are a woman, calling us 'cis', and doubtless using our spaces.

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