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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Mixed relays in the world champs

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mcduffy · 28/09/2019 18:16

Just saw the Japanese male athlete absolutely storm past the best female 400m sprinters. It's really interesting to watch this as an event (new I think?) and can't help think that men racing against women on fair terms (two of each in a team) will help shine a spotlight on the physical differences.

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MockersthefeMANist · 28/09/2019 18:20

The Japanese were the only team out of 16 that didn't opt for a 'girl sandwich' (Man-Woman-Woman-Man)

As Michael Johnson has just said, maybe they shouldn't get to choose their running order.

We have also seen the Womens 800m minus the three DSD athletes who previously came 1-2-3.

littlbrowndog · 28/09/2019 18:22

No need to add this to world champs.

littlbrowndog · 28/09/2019 18:23

Certainly shows difference between wome and men

miffmufferedmoof · 28/09/2019 18:23

Yes just watched it. I thought it was a fabulous demonstration of why sport needs to be sex segregated!

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 28/09/2019 18:23

I’ve never heard of this! Is it 2:2 or can it be 1:3?

littlbrowndog · 28/09/2019 18:24

No 2 2

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 28/09/2019 18:25

How can they stop males saying they are female like in other sports (roller derby comes to mind)?

MockersthefeMANist · 28/09/2019 18:32

How can they stop males saying they are female?

Well they could make them do it nude, but in a relay where you have to reach blind and grab a baton, that could be embarrassing if not dangerous.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 28/09/2019 18:33

But it happens! Not nudie relay though - that would be unpleasant to watch!

Michelleoftheresistance · 28/09/2019 18:35

Mockers even they they would argue they merely have an outie vagina.

DNA tests. And strict adherence to reality.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 28/09/2019 18:39

Reality doesn’t exist these days - didn’t you get the memo/meme?

littlbrowndog · 28/09/2019 18:39

It would be dead obvious though fekko as the men in that rela6 race were so much faster and stronger.

An£ I guess tha5 Nations don’t actually have the cheek to do it so obviously

zanahoria · 28/09/2019 18:39

I am all in favour of this, sounds an interesting event and showcases the difference between the sexes in a fair manner.

littlbrowndog · 28/09/2019 18:40

On such a big stage

EndoplasmicReticulum · 28/09/2019 18:40

Was interesting. I live in Yorkshire and have been watching UCI World Championships cycling.
They introduced a mixed time trial relay too, but didn't allow choice of running order. 3 men set off, when the first two reached the finish line 3 women set off, when first two of them reached finish line race was over.

Was a trial event but think they've decided to keep it. Not at the moment letting them pick the order so you don't see men racing directly against women. That would be interesting too.

(Just got back from watching Annemiek van Vleuten taking an incredible win and rainbow jersey with a very very long range attack.)

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AnyFucker · 28/09/2019 18:41

I love the way it completely demonstrates the sex differences in athletes

I also wonder how it will be managed when we inevitably get blokes saying they are women and demanding to be one of the two female relayers

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 28/09/2019 18:42

...Chinese woman’s 400m team... rather controversial but would most likely be ok to compete in a 2:2 race... (or maybe even 3:1).

rosy71 · 28/09/2019 18:44

"Just saw the Japanese male athlete absolutely storm past the best female 400m sprinters."

Yes, and then when the female Japanese woman took over she was in the lead, but all the men caught up and overtook her and she finished last. It really showed the difference.

Pota2 · 28/09/2019 18:44

Sounds good. More of this please. Otherwise people just don’t get the difference.

TemporaryPermanent · 28/09/2019 18:47

Cool in all sorts of ways. Wonder if the Japanese f runners got PBs running against men, or if the distance discouraged them.

Confuseddotcotton · 28/09/2019 18:47

I agree with the commentator who said the order they run should be a random draw. Would make the race more exciting.

Also thought the commentary was a tad patronising. Sort of ‘men are important, they start and finish, women fill in the bit in the middle’..

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 28/09/2019 18:47

They’re are enough male body’s in female sports to show the difference! But we aren’t allowed to say ‘oi that’s a bloke!!!’

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 28/09/2019 18:48

They’re are lorks... not even opened the wine yet!

Birdsfoottrefoil · 28/09/2019 18:51

Nude Olympics would at least be true to the original (for men anyway).

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 28/09/2019 18:57

Women weren’t even allowed to watch (meanies).

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