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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

More propaganda from Mermaids

93 replies

Qcng · 22/09/2019 09:43

Came across this in The Mirror, obviously written by Mermaids.
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/my-girl-became-youngest-trans-20138358

Not quite sure how to phrase this but it looks to me like another young child's life has been ruined for a publicity stunt, a vanity project for the parents and Mermaids. "Youngest trans child ever".

I simply do not believe most of what was written, ot things actually happened the way the article describes. I just feel really really sad for that young child.

Being a fantasy Disney Princess is not being a girl!

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FannyCann · 22/09/2019 10:52

Saw this on a market stall yesterday. Dancing with fairies. Seems about right.

FannyCann · 22/09/2019 10:52

Hmm. Won't upload my photo for some reason. Sorry.

FannyCann · 22/09/2019 10:54

Give up. Anyway it was a coloured board suitable for a nursery saying "Once upon a time....Ride unicorns, swim with mermaids, dance with fairies"

teawamutu · 22/09/2019 12:37

I like the way they included medical opinions, though, and make it clear the mother is going against them.

Yogobo · 22/09/2019 14:12

I really find that "authentic self" mantra quite sinister

Pota2 · 22/09/2019 14:18

FannyCann who or what was it aimed at?

ErrolTheDragon · 22/09/2019 14:30

FannyCann who or what was it aimed at?

Freshers?Grin (no, not really, I know most of them are sane and hardworking!)

Melroses · 22/09/2019 14:40

This one?

More propaganda from Mermaids
ErrolTheDragon · 22/09/2019 14:43

I can either have a dead son or a happy, confident daughter.”

The mother has been told that manipulative lie.Sad
I sincerely hope the child does grow up happy and confident - maybe this child really is dysphoric and will want to transition in due course. But this early, overly public, declaration has likely made it harder to backtrack and become a happy, confident gender nonconforming son.

OhHolyJesus · 22/09/2019 14:48

@Pota2 I think FannyCamm meant she gives up trying to load the photo. Not saying everyone else should give up...but that's how I read it.

Pota2 · 22/09/2019 14:51

OhHoly she was mentioning some sort of poster she had seen, which I presume was the photo in question. I just wanted to know who the poster was aimed at and what sort of context it was. Can’t say I am any the wiser after the comment about freshers!

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/09/2019 14:54

I think the correct expression is ‘I’d rather have a child on a lifetime of medication, surgery, infertility, plus health, emotional and IQ issues (and possible burning resentment and hatred when they grow up) than a potentially gay child’.

Pota2 · 22/09/2019 14:55

Meroses pisses me off how they put a fairytale spin on something that will involve a lifetime of medical treatment and which none of the adults like Susie Green have gone through themselves. I can’t think of any trans adults who medically transitioned as kids yet they are happy to push it. Only maybe Jazz Jennings but it’s too early to know the full impact of that one. Mermaids want surgery to be available under 16.

Pota2 · 22/09/2019 14:57

LordProf yeah I do suspect homophobia is often behind it. There is no mention that this child displayed any suicidal tendencies yet the mum is convinced that he would kill himself unless she 100% affirmed it. Mermaids have so much to answer for.

LumpySpacedPrincess · 22/09/2019 14:58

Why are they still allowed to tell parents this lie when it simply isn't true!

LloydBraun · 22/09/2019 14:58

Liverpool. Culturally, very rigid re gender roles. I’m from there so I know. Not everyone buys in of course but most do. As a woman who doesn’t dye her grey, wear many dresses, fake a tan or put much make up on, I am a daring renegade. In that culture, trans far easier to cope with than effeminate males or masculine females.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/09/2019 14:59

I saw an article by a trans man with a lot of photos of the injections, scars etc and for some reason them curled up in the foetal position (it sure of it was as a result of medication) and how they looked in real life. No attempt to sugar coat their life - and not was there the anger or entitlement you hear from the vocal trans woman.

They never announced that they were more male than a born man or that men who weren’t manly were women. It was much more introverted and soul searching than ‘everyone look at how wonderful I am’ and if memory serves me, they didn’t say ‘I am an authentic man’.

How different the sexed are.

MouthyHarpy · 22/09/2019 15:39

The transing of young children and teens always strikes me as a kind of Munchhausens by proxy.

It says more about the parent than the child, IMO.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/09/2019 15:43

Parents forgetting that being a parent is a kit the child, not them. So if the child decides that they want to wear a rugby top and take up kickboxing would mum sit down and tell the child they ‘girls can do this - gooooo girl power!!!’ (Come on, she likes Disney after all) or ‘eeeeek!!!!! You’re a boy then! Oh the shock, the horror! What will the neighbours thing! Somebody call the daily mail’.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/09/2019 15:43

A kit - ‘about’ duh

vaginafetishist · 22/09/2019 16:37

Lloyd- agreed re Liverpool, I'm from there too.

LloydBraun · 22/09/2019 16:48

Thank you. I had donned my tin hat expecting abuse! However I speak from experience, I’m not doing g a Boris Johnson

roseapothecary · 22/09/2019 17:35

I have a gender non-conforming son. From the age of 2/3 he would cry saying he wanted to he a girl. His favourite toys were barbies and he loved dressing up as a princess. His idea of being a girl was very much princess dresses and long hair.
I never talked to him about gender identity or being trans as I didn't want to confuse him at a very young age. Instead I spoke to him about how there was no such thing as girl toys/boy toys etc, and he could be a boy who likes dolls and has long hair.
Now he is 8. He still likes s and princesses. He has some awareness now that some people are transgender but states that he is happy being a boy and doesn't want to be a girl.
According to the 'dead son or happy daughter' trope my son should be suicidal as a result of my not affirming his transgender status as a young child,but hes fine and happy and comfortable with who he is. Of course he may still decide that he is transgender as he gets older. Which is fine as it would be his decision when he is old enough to fully understand. It is not a decision for parents to be making for very young children, pushing them down a pathway of bidy dysphoria, medication and surgery.

ErrolTheDragon · 22/09/2019 17:39

You're a wise parent, Rose.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/09/2019 17:39

I think it’s coming from the parents.

So as above a boy says ‘I wanna be a girl’ one parent says ‘why? A boy can like pink and princesses! Why not?’ Whereas another says ‘oh darling, do you really? Really? Well of course you must be a girl then. What shall we call you? Lulabelle or Ameli-rose? Of course the trousers will have to go - yes even the link ones because that not what real girls wear...’