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More propaganda from Mermaids

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Qcng · 22/09/2019 09:43

Came across this in The Mirror, obviously written by Mermaids.
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/my-girl-became-youngest-trans-20138358

Not quite sure how to phrase this but it looks to me like another young child's life has been ruined for a publicity stunt, a vanity project for the parents and Mermaids. "Youngest trans child ever".

I simply do not believe most of what was written, ot things actually happened the way the article describes. I just feel really really sad for that young child.

Being a fantasy Disney Princess is not being a girl!

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roseapothecary · 22/09/2019 17:41

Wow there are dozens of typos in my post. Apologies, hope my point still comes across okay.

LloydBraun · 22/09/2019 17:47

It does and I think you are doing a damn good job as a parent, if you don’t mind me saying so

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/09/2019 17:49

Of course it makes sense! My parents response to my sister ‘so does your action man want the helicopter or jeep?’.

Sigh - I loved playing with the action men (we had all the gear!) and always hated Barbies/Sindys.

Yogobo · 22/09/2019 17:59

I find it hard to sympathise with the parents when the child involved is as young as this. At some point in the child's life (I don't mean this child in particular but generally), they must have been told or shown that they are wrong for behaving a certain way /liking the things they like/wanting to play with certain toys or wear certain clothes. And meanwhile they see it is accepted, or even praised and encouraged for children of the opposite sex to do/have/wear/be those things. I can't imagine telling my DD that something is intrinsically wrong with her. That her personality makes her wrong or that she has the wrong body for her personality. I just can't imagine it.

Yogobo · 22/09/2019 18:04

I know later on there is scaremongering and lying. Transition or die etc. But before that the child has got this idea that they are wrong, and a 3 year old does not get that idea out of thin air.

I suppose some parents may genuinely believe that only boys can play with cars and only girls can like princesses and maybe I should be more understanding of that but I find it very difficult.

Goosefoot · 22/09/2019 18:12

I tend to think a lot of these are about the parents issues. But also a lot of parents of younger kids now have been exposed to this idea that their kid might be trans if they ever say they and to be the other sex, or do certain things. And it seems like it's the medical world telling them this. So I also think increasingly they are just parents doing what they are told is best.

BazzleJet · 22/09/2019 18:16

Don't forget that some parents believe that vaccinations are a conspiracy by governments to control the populace... The internet can be a wonderful thing but my god it can cause some problems in the hard of thinking.

FWRLurker · 22/09/2019 18:45

“I asked her if she wanted regular girl clothes and was so excited... so we threw away all the old boys’ clothes... that’s how I knew this was her authentic self.”

LET CLOTHES BE CLOTHES
LET TOYS BE TOYS

OBJECTS are not male or female!!!!

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 22/09/2019 18:51

Gee - a frilly frock is what makes your sex your sex! Wow. So what did cavemen do?

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 22/09/2019 19:02

I know later on there is scaremongering and lying. Transition or die etc. But before that the child has got this idea that they are wrong, and a 3 year old does not get that idea out of thin air.

If the child got that idea from the parents then you have your answer and know who to blame (though Mermaids aren't helping). If the child got the idea from school, TV etc then it is the job of the parents to reassure the child that their interests are fine and don't mean there's something wrong with them. So any way you look at it the parents are very much to blame with a child this young.

(With teenagers there's also social media and parents have a lot less control over the situation.)

HandsOffMyRights · 22/09/2019 19:04

It breaks my heart what adults are doing to children. Mermaids should hang their heads in shame.

My boy wore Princess dresses at 4, 5 and 6. At 7 he probably still had a Princess room.

They're children for God's sake. It's horrific and the buck ends with you, Susie.

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TheProdigalKittensReturn · 22/09/2019 19:07

Part of me wonders...where there always tons of parents with these idiotic, regressive ideas, and they just had no way to act on them until Mermaids etc came along and handed them a "this is how you abuse your nonconforming child the progressive way" script?

(Literally a script, I assume they're given one to follow because it's pretty much word for word from one propaganda piece to the next.)

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Qcng · 22/09/2019 20:07

It's completely driven by the parents, who have a need to have a "very special brave and stunning child" and will latch onto any utterance from the child if it happens to be outside of the gender conforming box.

I currently have a 4 year old who desperately wants a plastic keyboard we saw in Oxfam.
The plastic keyboard is shaped in the style of a grand piano. It is bright pink. It has princess stickers all over it.
I've told my child "no" because quite honestly it's a price of plastic tacky crap for £40 including the pink chair to sit play it on.
My child is sobbing their heart out and really upset.
My child also wants a remote control digger for their birthday.

Oh my god! Is my child a boy or girl???

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TheProdigalKittensReturn · 22/09/2019 20:12

I hate to break it to you but your child may have terrible taste. Luckily, much like wanting to be a dinosaur//the family dog/the opposite sex this is something they will most likely grow out of!

Unless a dodgy lobby group comes along to "help" them, anyway.

MrsJamin · 22/09/2019 20:27

WTF? Dr Webberly needs to FOTTFSOFAFSM!

More propaganda from Mermaids
mcduffy · 22/09/2019 20:33

I don't know how she looks herself in the mirror Sad

OldCrone · 22/09/2019 20:42

Only boys go through male puberty, Helen, and people can't change sex. Didn't they teach you that at medical school?

Anyway, Webberley is still suspended by the GMC, so nobody should be paying any attention to her ramblings.

Beamur · 22/09/2019 20:49

Given that the stats suggest an 80% chance that puberty would resolve their dysphoria, I'd like to see a really strong argument for the 1:5 chance it might help in some way (despite the dangers of the drugs involved)

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 22/09/2019 20:53

Webberly is awfully confident for someone who has already been told off by the courts.

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Qcng · 22/09/2019 20:55

I hate to break it to you but your child may have terrible taste
They do, it's devastating. Grin Disney have a lot to answer for.

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OrchidInTheSun · 22/09/2019 20:57

Webberly never stops touting for business

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Qcng · 22/09/2019 20:58

Wow. That Wibberly Wobberly Tweet Shock

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OldCrone · 22/09/2019 21:07

Webberly is awfully confident for someone who has already been told off by the courts.

Told off, fined and suspended.

District Judge Neil Thomas ordered her to pay a £12,000 fine as well as a £2,000 fine issued to her GenderGP busness.

Dr Webberley was also told to pay £11,307 costs.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/12/03/gp-convicted-running-illegal-transgender-clinic-children/

Over £25,000 in fines and costs and she just carries on.

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Qcng · 22/09/2019 21:10

W is an abuser.

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