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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Janice Turner nails it again

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NotBadConsidering · 21/09/2019 02:45

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cult-of-gender-identity-is-harming-children-pjvbkjzxq?shareToken=3bdc5df93cd4653a1d9f3ee0ff9d9213

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Thingybob · 21/09/2019 03:00

The government’s own No Outsiders programme simply teaches primary kids that some families have gay parents, and boys can like mermaids just like girls

Is Janice in support of the No Outsiders programme? Last time I looked No Outsiders was also teaching boys that they could become girls and vica versa

AnyOldPrion · 21/09/2019 05:55

It appears Janice might not have looked closely enough at No Outsiders. Other than that, a great article. Thanks for the share token.

SarahTancredi · 21/09/2019 08:05

Yes I thought that no outsiders was something we should be very wary of.

I was hoping this 100 genders nonsense would expose it all for the nonsense it is. Still therebseens to be less belief if it all and more just slurs and name calling sounding ever more desperate as people wake up.

CSharpLemon · 21/09/2019 08:11

Gender pokemon Grin

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 21/09/2019 08:28

really incisive about the BBC too. why the fuck are they encouraging this damaging confusion among children?

I just love Janice's writing

Igneococcus · 21/09/2019 08:29

I'm glad they publish comments straight away for this article. No waiting around for the moderator.

Qcng · 21/09/2019 08:43

Odd Name drop of Ruth Hunt there.
Maybe JT knows something we don't about RH...

stillathing · 21/09/2019 08:46

Reading the comments (some American perhaps?) it gets so infuriating when people muddle the concepts of gender and sex.

HandsOffMyRights · 21/09/2019 08:50

Thanks for the share. Another bang on the money piece from Janice.

Gender Pokemon wins the internet today. God she's good.

ImGenderfree · 21/09/2019 08:51

If you like the pokemon comment you’ll love this thread (probably already linked somewhere on here but still worth a read). Love the suggested names, hair colour and anime suggestions.

mobile.twitter.com/VictoriaPeckham/status/1174448107796533248

HandsOffMyRights · 21/09/2019 08:53

Argh...just re-read the No Outsiders paragraph again.

No, Janice, the programme is a shocker, for all the reasons outlined here: www.transgendertrend.com/no-outsiders-queering-primary-classroom/

HandsOffMyRights · 21/09/2019 08:56

Thanks ImGenderFree - some great responses there, including Julie Bindel reminding the menz about the rules of misogyny.

LumpySpacedPrincess · 21/09/2019 08:58

Someone needs to point Janice towards the No Outsiders thread on here, interesting read...

LangCleg · 21/09/2019 09:23

in just a few years, with zero debate, public institutions have converted to a new state religion: the magical, wholly unscientific belief that biological sex does not exist while “gender identity” is real

Yep. Keep hammering this point, Janice, you star.

It's not real. There is no such thing as a gender identity. People have feelings and beliefs about themselves. The feelings people have about themselves are real. The beliefs they have about themselves may not be.

There is no such actual thing as a gender identity,. It's religious mumbo jumbo. It's doesn't exist.

Britain is rapidly becoming a top-down, imposed theocracy. This is wrong.

(And yes: Janice - check out No Outsiders. It's queer theory-based and fucking dangerous. Not teaching LGB acceptance.)

NotBadConsidering · 21/09/2019 09:28

I’m not overly dwelling on Jazz Turner’s use of the word “simply” in that sentence, I’m sure they will take note and read a bit more about No Outsiders. Still a good article.

*new non-binary name and pronoun Wink

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Melroses · 21/09/2019 10:11

Janice sorry......Jazz Turner's writing is so clear. I am always amazed how They can clarify the muddy waters of Gender Ideology.

I don't think the world outside realises or understands how No Outsiders is dumping evidence based Biology and replacing it with Postmodern Queer Theory and I wish the objectors would wise up to this.

SarahConnorFem · 22/09/2019 00:17

I took a giant leap and shared this article to my Facebook profile today, proclaiming that although this is a subject that isn't generally discussed in most circles, as a mother I felt compelled to admit that it terrified me. Absolutely no comments or likes from anyone apart from my outspoken, down to earth South African friend who fully agreed.

I fully expected no comments or acknowledgement. I suspect most of my friends on FB and irl feel the same way, just too scared to admit it publicity. So far nobody's called me a bigot tho, that's something!

So a bit later I changed the tone with a post about big spiders in my house. Guess what, loads of engagement! Typical. 🤷🏻‍♀️

NotBadConsidering · 22/09/2019 02:10

I get the same on Facebook. I put it down to one of three options:

a) everyone agrees and is too scared to admit it apart from the same two people who regularly “like”
b) everyone thinks I’m a bigot, in which case, fuck ‘em
c) my posts aren’t very important to people, in the same way I regularly ignore posts other people regularly make.

I hope it’s a, but I suspect it’s c.

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BeMoreMagdalen · 22/09/2019 07:17

Turner is named checked in a new video by Munroe Bergdorf sponsored by Brut. In it, there is a pop taken at Mumsnet and 'TERFs', and Bergdorf accuses us of planning genocide because we don't 'prioritize trans people'. Jaw dropping.

LloydBraun · 22/09/2019 07:24

Brut? Poor old monroe. This whole glamorous woman thing really isn’t working out, is it?

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 22/09/2019 08:05

Janice nails it again.

I particularly loved the end "Darling, don't we all."

Brilliant.

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